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Extreme events of 2011: climate change a major factor in some, but not all
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 13:54 GMT le 11 juillet 2012 +50
The science of quantifying how climate change changes the odds of extreme weather events like droughts and floods took a major step forward Tuesday with the publication of NOAA's annual summary of the past year's weather. The 2011 State of the Climate report contains a separate peer-reviewed article published in the July issue of the Bulletin of the American Meteorological Society titled, Explaining Extreme Events of 2011 From a Climate Perspective. In the paper, a group of scientists led by Peter Stott of the Met Office Centre in the United Kingdom looked at how climate change may have changed the odds of occurrence of some of 2011's notable weather extremes. These kinds of attribution studies require huge amounts of computer time and take many months to do, but the scientists plan to start making this a regular part of the annual NOAA State of the Climate report. Some of their findings for 2011:

- Determining the causes of extreme events remains difficult. While scientists cannot trace specific events to climate change with absolute certainty, new and continued research help scientists understand how the probability of extreme events change in response to global warming.

- La Niña-related heat waves, like that experienced in Texas in 2011, are now 20 times more likely to occur during La Niña years today than La Niña years fifty years ago.

- The UK experienced a very warm November 2011 and a very cold December 2010. In analyzing these two very different events, UK scientists uncovered interesting changes in the odds. Cold Decembers are now half as likely to occur now versus fifty years ago, whereas warm Novembers are now 62 times more likely.

- The devastating 2011 floods in Thailand caused an estimated $45 billion in damage, making it the world's most expensive river flooding disaster in history. The study found, however, that the amount of rain that fell in the catchment area was not very unusual, and that other factors such as human-caused changes to the flood plain and the movement of more people into flood-prone areas were more important in causing the disaster. "Climate change cannot be shown to have played any role in this event," the study concluded, but warned that climate models predict an increase in the probability of extreme precipitation events in the future in the region.

- The deadly drought in East Africa, which killed tens of thousands of people in 2011, was made more likely by warming waters in the Indian Ocean and Western Pacific. While the scientists did not specifically tie the warming of these waters to human-caused global warming, they noted that climate models predict continued warming of these waters in the coming decades, and this will likely "contribute to more frequent East African droughts during the spring and summer."


Figure 1. An SH-60F Sea Hawk helicopter assigned to Helicopter Anti-Submarine Squadron (HS) 14, flies around the Bangkok area with members of the humanitarian assessment survey team and the Royal Thai Armed Forces to assess the damage caused by the 2011 floods. Image credit: Petty Officer 1st Class Jennifer Villalovos.

Weather on steroids
One interesting aspect of the paper was the scientists' use of the baseball player-steroids analogy to help explain how climate change can increase the odds of extreme weather: "One analogy of the effects of climate change on extreme weather is with a baseball player (or to choose another sport, a cricketer) who starts taking steroids and afterwards hits on average 20% more home runs (or sixes) in a season than he did before (Meehl 2012). For any one of his home runs (sixes) during the years the player was taking steroids, you would not know for sure whether it was caused by steroids or not. But you might be able to attribute his increased number to the steroids. And given that steroids have resulted in a 20% increased chance that any particular swing of the player’s bat results in a home run (or a six), you would be able to make an attribution statement that, all other things being equal, steroid use had increased the probability of that particular occurrence by 20%. The job of the attribution assessment is to distinguish the effects of anthropogenic climate change or some other external factor (steroids in the sporting analogy) from natural variability (e.g., in the baseball analogy, the player’s natural ability to hit home runs or the configuration of a particular stadium)."



Video 1. National Center for Atmospheric Research scientist Dr. Jerry Meehl explains how climate change's impact on extreme weather is like how steroids affect a baseball player.

Jeff Masters
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751. HurricaneHunterJoe 22:26 GMT le 11 juillet 2012    
Quoting stormchaser19:


Hurricane Iniki in 1992
The mother nature is is amazing

Wow... i never see a hurricane move nearly 90 degrees.... and reach cat.4 hurricane, incredible path




Quoting stormchaser19:


Hurricane Iniki in 1992
The mother nature is is amazing

Wow... i never see a hurricane move nearly 90 degrees.... and reach cat.4 hurricane, incredible path




Thats what ya call a right turn!
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752. Xyrus2000 22:27 GMT le 11 juillet 2012    
Quoting yoboi:


i am just teaching ya basic debating skills, if you really desire change to your way of thinking and i am not saying you are right or wrong, you need to understand the other side of view so you can use that to your advantage and with a clean debate you might get them to agree with your way of thinking. the tactic of drawing a line in the sand and picking what side is what will not lead to change.


Your assuming though, that both sides are using logic and facts to establish their point of view, which is not the case with global warming. One side (the scientists) have tons of data and research including physical observations to back up their case. The other side (deniers), have nothing but mindless faith and willful ignorance.

And when your opponet use mindless faith and willful ignorance to support their point of view, it is useless to continue the "debate" as no amount of facts, data, etc. will convince them that they are wrong.

The same thing has happened multiple times in the past whenever some scientific discovery threatened monied interests.
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753. wxchaser97 22:29 GMT le 11 juillet 2012    
Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:
Jose? That you?

Its jose back from the dead.
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754. HurricaneHunterJoe 22:29 GMT le 11 juillet 2012    
Quoting wxchaser97:
CI# /Pressure/ Vmax
6.4 / 940.6mb/124.6kt


Final T# Adj T# Raw T#
6.1 6.1 6.1

Estimated radius of max. wind based on IR : 24 km

Center Temp : -4.8C Cloud Region Temp : -68.4C

Scene Type : EYE

Positioning Method : RING/SPIRAL COMBINATION


Looks stronger than 115mph imo.


She looking very healthy!
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755. CJ5 22:30 GMT le 11 juillet 2012    
Quoting Neapolitan:
A "red herring"? Not at all. The money those corporations--Koch Industries, for one--spend to confuse the public on climate change is responsible for the inaction we've seen on the matter. Directly responsible. Powerful, fossil fuel-friendly lawmakers such as James Inhofe and Joe Barton in turn rake in many thousands of dollars in campaign cash from those heavy-polluting industries, and, thus beholden, do what they can to further confuse the populace and stall even the smallest mitigation efforts.

"Red herring", huh? I do not think that word means what you think it means...


I know exactly what the word means. My point, which you fail to understand, is that companies and citizens are going to spend money to support thier interests. That is normal, you do and I do it. Most money spent by groups like Koch and Exxon Mobile are spend in the defense of legislation that is harmful to thier business. They have that right and though you may think the don't and you may think they don't use good science or good judgement that have that right. Exxon Mobile, Koch and even Bain Capital spend much more on alternative companies, research and development that you care to even acknowledge you only want to call those companies evil and the reason the planet is where it is. That is why the pro-side has so much trouble.
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756. wxchaser97 22:31 GMT le 11 juillet 2012    
Thats a lot of convection over the center, should be a TD soon.
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757. weatherh98 22:31 GMT le 11 juillet 2012    
Quoting Tribucanes:
I really have no respect for the lies your trying to spread CJ5. Jeff, or someone else honest will correct the misinformation very soon. MrMixon has shown how small and partisan your cost comparison was. This ain't sheep your trying to feed, trolls like you generally get eaten by the Lions Of Truth here.


generally neapolitins definiton of troll

A troll is A) someone who disagrees about your analysis that a tropical wave will hit your locoation as a category five or B) a person who spams the blog and will undoubtedly become the topic of the blog for the next 100 comments
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758. wxchaser97 22:34 GMT le 11 juillet 2012    
Don't stop believing or strengthening Emilia!
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759. CJ5 22:34 GMT le 11 juillet 2012    
Quoting Neapolitan:
Listen, to be fair if you're going to count money the U.S. government spends researching alternative fuels as "pro-AGW money", you're going to have to count the hundred billion dollars of annual profit the fossil fuel industry makes as "anti-AGW money".

Facts FTW...


Jeez. If you guys think that the anti crowd spends more money than the pro crowd and if you think that funding (from any source) for the anti crowd outweights that of the pro crowd than I don't know what to tell you. You have your head in the sand.
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760. Tribucanes 22:36 GMT le 11 juillet 2012    
So someone who is intentionally lying is not a troll? CJ5 is a troll in my opinion. If you think differently weather98 that's your free will, but I would beg to differ.
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761. TropicalAnalystwx13 22:37 GMT le 11 juillet 2012    
Quoting GTcooliebai:
latest HWRF showing development in the Gulf

That's the WRF, not the HWRF.
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762. weatherh98 22:37 GMT le 11 juillet 2012    
Quoting Tribucanes:
So someone who is intentionally lying is not a troll? CJ5 is a troll in my opinion. If you think differently weather98 that's your free will, but I would beg to differ.


He may or may not be a troll but as im seeing it, yall are disagreeing therefore you thinkhes a troll.

I disagree with you, I am not a troll.

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763. wxchaser97 22:38 GMT le 11 juillet 2012    
Quoting HurricaneHunterJoe:


She looking very healthy!
She is a good looking major. Wonder what the next advisory holds in store.
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764. Neapolitan 22:39 GMT le 11 juillet 2012    
Quoting CJ5:


I know exactly what the word means. My point, which you fail to understand, is that companies and citizens are going to spend money to support thier interests. That is normal, you do and I do it. Most money spent by groups like Koch and Exxon Mobile are spend in the defense of legislation that is harmful to thier business. They have that right and though you may think the don't and you may think they don't use good science or good judgement that have that right. Exxon Mobile, Koch and even Bain Capital spend much more on alternative companies, research and development that you care to even acknowledge you only want to call those companies evil and the reason the planet is where it is. That is why the pro-side has so much trouble.
Those corporations definitely have the right to pursue a profit--so long as they do so honestly, fairly, according to the rules, and as good citizens and stewards of the planet. But, notwithstanding the ridiculous and highly damaging Citizens United decision, they absolutely do not have the right to lie, manipulate, bribe, obfuscate, and cheat to get at that profit, nor do they have the right to destroy the environment we all share to do so. Some--mainly members of one political party--may think that's the way the Founding Fathers intended the game to be played, but rest assured that it is not.

There are many grey areas in politics, as there are in life. But some things are just flat out wrong, and no amount of spin or mewling about protecting the "job creators" will ever make it otherwise.
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765. Tribucanes 22:40 GMT le 11 juillet 2012    
Weather98, I would respond, but I hate wasting breath.
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766. CJ5 22:40 GMT le 11 juillet 2012    
Quoting Tribucanes:
I really have no respect for the lies your trying to spread CJ5. Jeff, or someone else honest will correct the misinformation very soon. MrMixon has shown how small and partisan your cost comparison was. This ain't sheep your trying to feed, trolls like you generally get eaten by the Lions Of Truth here.


Well, you asked for some shred of evidience. I gave it to you. You don't like the source but It was the same source used by the pro-side a few days ago. I am not spreading any lies. I am giving you facts as I know them to be. If you or Dr. Masters wants to dive into the question and produce something tells a different story I will gladly accept it.

You are still missing the point completely, which, proves my point to begin with. The rabid pro crowd and rabid con crowd needs to get out of the discussion or we as a planet are never going to have any meaningful discussions or meaningful change before it will be to late.
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767. Xyrus2000 22:41 GMT le 11 juillet 2012    
Quoting CJ5:


I think we can agree that not all corporations intentions are always altruistic in nature, however, to rant and rave about the money they may spend is a red herring. Two points, one, bad legislation is bad regardless of the good goals it may intend to serve and in many instances I support what some of these corporations fight against, and secondly, the amount of money spend by corporation denialists is a drop in the bucket to what GW alarmists spend so there really should be much of an issue. A final point, many of the claims about corporate spending on anti-gw propaganda is false and inaccurate.


Bovine Excrement.

The entire climate science budget for NASA?NOAA/etc. was $2 billion dollars a couple of years ago, and most of that went to building satellites to replace our aging and dying ones currently in orbit.

Exxon makes 16 times that in a single quarter. And that's just one company.

So unless you got some numbers to back up your outrageous claim, this is nothing more than an outright lie.
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768. weatherh98 22:42 GMT le 11 juillet 2012    
If you havent see it
I wrote a new blog
Emilia, daniel, 98e and the AOI over florida

Please any feedback is appreciated!

Link

Thank you all who readit!
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769. Patrap 22:42 GMT le 11 juillet 2012    
Ostriches don't vote nor Blog.



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770. CJ5 22:42 GMT le 11 juillet 2012    
Quoting Neapolitan:
Those corporations definitely have the right to pursue a profit--so long as they do so honestly, fairly, according to the rules, and as good citizens and stewards of the planet. But, notwithstanding the ridiculous and highly damaging Citizens United decision, they absolutely do not have the right to lie, manipulate, bribe, obfuscate, and cheat to get at that profit, nor do they have the right to destroy the environment we all share to do so. Some--mainly members of one political party--may think that's the way the Founding Fathers intended the game to be played, but rest assured that it is not.

There are many grey areas in politics, as there are in life. But some things are just flat out wrong, and no amount of spin or mewling about protecting the "job creators" will ever make it otherwise.


That is some rich soil you just layed on the table. I wish I could discuss with you but I have a 20th Anniversay dinner with my wife and if I am late gloabal warming will be the least of my problems.
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771. weatherh98 22:43 GMT le 11 juillet 2012    
Quoting Tribucanes:
Weather98, I would respond, but I hate wasting breath.


all you have to do is type, no breath wasted
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772. Jedkins01 22:43 GMT le 11 juillet 2012    
I just came to the conclusion that some people here really need to get away from the computer and get in real life. It seems that there is no end to the climate change bickering, because certain individuals are so lame the post the same junk everyday, like a broken record, the refers to both those backing climate change and those who aren't. Seriously guys, let it go for a while, how much can you possible repeat the same stuff over and over?
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773. Patrap 22:43 GMT le 11 juillet 2012    
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774. Patrap 22:44 GMT le 11 juillet 2012    
Ahhhh, the Silencer attempt.

Noble but like throwing sand at a Tornado.
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775. CJ5 22:45 GMT le 11 juillet 2012    
Quoting Xyrus2000:


Bovine Excrement.

The entire climate science budget for NASA?NOAA/etc. was $2 billion dollars a couple of years ago, and most of that went to building satellites to replace our aging and dying ones currently in orbit.

Exxon makes 16 times that in a single quarter. And that's just one company.

So unless you got some numbers to back up your outrageous claim, this is nothing more than an outright lie.


Wait. You are saying Exxon makes 16 times more than Nasa's climate budjet so that makes my info wrong? Ok. How has Exxon spent on anti-GW? 2 billion? Jeez, you guys are so quick to defend you don't make any sense.
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776. Tazmanian 22:45 GMT le 11 juillet 2012    
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777. hurricanehunter27 22:45 GMT le 11 juillet 2012    
Quoting Jedkins01:
Seriously guys, let it go for a while, how much can you possible repeat the same stuff over and over?
They can go at it much longer than this. When someone is passionate about something they can go on till the day they die.
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778. NorCalSevereWx 22:46 GMT le 11 juillet 2012    
Agree with Jedkins01. Who wants to go round and round like a hamster about climate change when you have the beautiful Emilia prancing around? Nice post Wxchaser97!
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779. wxchaser97 22:46 GMT le 11 juillet 2012    
Temperatures will moderate into the mid to upper 80s as we head toward the Weekend, with a good chance of showers and thunderstorms Friday Night into Saturday.
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780. Patrap 22:46 GMT le 11 juillet 2012    
June co2 is in.

Surprised?


395.77ppm


Atmospheric CO2 for June 2012


co2now.org

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781. HurricaneHunterJoe 22:46 GMT le 11 juillet 2012    
Quoting wxchaser97:
Thats a lot of convection over the center, should be a TD soon.

Or as some say" Why do you get so excited over blobs?"..........lollol
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782. Civicane49 22:46 GMT le 11 juillet 2012    
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783. wxchaser97 22:47 GMT le 11 juillet 2012    
Heat Continues Across Western U.S.
Above-normal temperatures will continue today for much of the western U.S., with forecast highs in the 90s for many locations. Heat Advisories are in effect for several locations, while Excessive Heat Warnings are in effect for the lower elevations of the Desert Southwest, where highs in the 110 to 120 degree range are expected. Link
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784. Bluestorm5 22:48 GMT le 11 juillet 2012    
Emilia is 135-140 MPH currently IMO. She's looking great now and is, apparently, ignoring the cooler water. Is she now an annular hurricane?

Btw, blog will be up later tonight.
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785. weatherh98 22:48 GMT le 11 juillet 2012    
Quoting hurricanehunter27:
They can go at it much longer than this. When someone is passionate about something they can go on till the day they die.


Its like the off season with a TD an invest and a Annular hurricane!
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786. ScottLincoln 22:48 GMT le 11 juillet 2012    
Quoting Jedkins01:
I just came to the conclusion that some people here really need to get away from the computer and get in real life. It seems that there is no end to the climate change bickering, because certain individuals are so lame the post the same junk everyday, like a broken record, the refers to both those backing climate change and those who aren't. Seriously guys, let it go for a while, how much can you possible repeat the same stuff over and over?


No one is "backing" climate change, are they?
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787. quasistationary 22:48 GMT le 11 juillet 2012    
Quoting Jedkins01:


Nice! At one point we had a really intense burst, along with really strong winds, where it went completely white outside and I got over an inch in 10 minutes, rainfall rate of 6 inches per hours, crazy stuff, my street is flooded pretty bad, I'll post photos I took later tonight.


WOW!
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788. quasistationary 22:50 GMT le 11 juillet 2012    
Quoting BobWallace:


I was born in Alabama. But as far as I know I'm not related to George Wallace. Either one of them.


LOL!
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789. Bluestorm5 22:51 GMT le 11 juillet 2012    
Quoting Patrap:
June co2 is in.

Surprised?


395.77ppm


Atmospheric CO2 for June 2012


co2now.org



I'm sure there will be argument over this, but should I be concerned about this? Is the rising CO2 a HUGE concern? Just wondering... I don't really like the thoughts of dying planet :\
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790. wxchaser97 22:52 GMT le 11 juillet 2012    
Quoting HurricaneHunterJoe:

Or as some say" Why do you get so excited over blobs?"..........lollol
Atleast this is invested in by the NHC:) The other blobs are too unstable to trust right now.
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791. Patrap 22:53 GMT le 11 juillet 2012    
Trust?

ack!
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792. captainmark 22:53 GMT le 11 juillet 2012    
looking at patrap's radar post, I noticed a big cloud
of smug eminating from the uptown area.
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793. Patrap 22:53 GMT le 11 juillet 2012    
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794. Patrap 22:54 GMT le 11 juillet 2012    
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795. wxchaser97 22:54 GMT le 11 juillet 2012    
Quoting NorCalSevereWx:
Agree with Jedkins01. Who wants to go round and round like a hamster about climate change when you have the beautiful Emilia prancing around? Nice post Wxchaser97!
Thanxs, Emilia is stronger than 115.
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796. Patrap 22:54 GMT le 11 juillet 2012    
who's yer Daddy?

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797. JNCali 22:55 GMT le 11 juillet 2012    
GOM sending some moisture to Middle TN this afternoon.. so nice to be in the upper 80's after that stretch of 105+ days.. and with the rains...BONUS!
I shot this nice little cell going South on the 48 from Clarksville this afternoon
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798. HurricaneHunterJoe 22:55 GMT le 11 juillet 2012    
Quoting Patrap:
Ahhhh, the Silencer attempt.

Noble but like throwing sand at a Tornado.


INDEED!!!!!!!!!!!!
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799. weatherh98 22:56 GMT le 11 juillet 2012    
Quoting Patrap:
who's yer Daddy?



classified info
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800. Patrap 22:56 GMT le 11 juillet 2012    
TD Daniel


A skeleton remains,,

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801. Patrap 22:57 GMT le 11 juillet 2012    
Looking down a Major's Gullet.

EP052012 - Major Hurricane EMILIA

22:00 UTC Viz


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