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Tropical Depression Seven forms
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 21:59 GMT le 09 août 2012 +41
Tropical Depression Seven is here. Looking remarkably like the tropical depression that became Tropical Storm Ernesto on August 1, TD 7 has a limited region of heavy thunderstorms, as seen on satellite loops. A large amount of dry air to the west and north is visible on water vapor satellite loops, and this dry air is interfering with TD 7's heavy thunderstorms. Wind shear is a light 5 - 10 knots, which is quite favorable for intensification. Ocean temperatures are 26°C, which is a bit on the cool side, though. Winds at the Middle Atlantic buoy 41041 were 20 mph at 5 pm EDT, and should rise this evening, as the center of TD 7 passes about 50 miles to the south near midnight. The first hurricane hunter mission into TD 7 is scheduled for Saturday morning.


Figure 1. Satellite image of TD 7 as it was forming at 3:17 pm EDT August 9, 2012.

Forecast for TD 7
TD 7 formed about 400 miles east-northeast of where Ernesto became a tropical depression, as seen on our wundermap. Atmospheric and oceanic conditions are currently quite similar to what Ernesto experienced, and I expect TD 7 will struggle with dry air like Ernesto did. The SHIPS model predicts that shear will remain light through Friday then rise to the moderate range on Saturday, when the storm will encounter moderate shear from upper-level westerly winds associated with a trough of low pressure. Since conditions are so similar to what Ernesto experienced, the official NHC forecast of a 45 - 50 mph tropical storm moving through the Lesser Antilles Islands Saturday and Sunday is a reasonable one.

Jeff Masters

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501. MississippiWx 01:53 GMT le 10 août 2012    
It's entirely possible that 93L gets named around the same time that TD7 does. 93L is one of those fast developers...
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502. weatherh98 01:54 GMT le 10 août 2012    
Quoting MississippiWx:
It's entirely possible that 93L gets named around the same time that TD7 does. 93L is one of those fast developers...


I think they will want to wait 24 hours before renumbers begin...
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504. Tazmanian 01:55 GMT le 10 août 2012    
i say if TD 7 gets a good D Max then we havea new TS
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505. CaribBoy 01:55 GMT le 10 août 2012    
Quoting Coastalgramps:


Dry air makes me happy. Less fuel to work with and less chance of a super storm.


Yes, you're right.... but I do need rain :) I'm in the Leewards, the northern islands.
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506. KoritheMan 01:55 GMT le 10 août 2012    
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507. PRweathercenter 01:55 GMT le 10 août 2012    
Quoting JLPR2:
93L is liking the water.



I wonder what % we will have at 2am...

maybe 60 %
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508. weatherh98 01:55 GMT le 10 août 2012    
Quoting Tazmanian:
i say if TD 7 gets a good D Max then we havea new TS


Yes i believe youre right
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509. MTWX 01:57 GMT le 10 août 2012    
Some mean suckers heading down the Mississippi!!

Link
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510. MiamiHurricanes09 01:57 GMT le 10 août 2012    
Quoting MississippiWx:
It's entirely possible that 93L gets named around the same time that TD7 does. 93L is one of those fast developers...
I agree -- or before. 93L already looks better organized than 07L. Too bad Stewart isn't in the office tonight. ;(
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511. Chiggy 01:58 GMT le 10 août 2012    
Quoting MississippiWx:
It's entirely possible that 93L gets named around the same time that TD7 does. 93L is one of those fast developers...Fast developers at that latitude are a bore.. FISH
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512. MississippiWx 01:59 GMT le 10 août 2012    
TD7 will be entering into SSTs that are 1C warmer later tonight. That combined with d-max should help give it a boost. The area of convection SW of the circulation is already in warmer waters (near 28C there) and it seems to be enhancing convective potential.



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513. Articuno 02:00 GMT le 10 août 2012    
Quoting JLPR2:
93L is liking the water.



I wonder what % we will have at 2am...

80%.
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514. MississippiWx 02:01 GMT le 10 août 2012    
Quoting Chiggy:


On the contrary. Fast developers are the ones we should want. Out to sea with our fascination of hurricane-watching fulfilled. Some of you have clearly never been through a major hurricane.
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515. Tazmanian 02:01 GMT le 10 août 2012    
i this noted some in a little odd with TD 7


TD 7 looks too be spining has if it was in the Southern Hemisphere

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516. JLPR2 02:02 GMT le 10 août 2012    
Quoting redwagon:

Did not realize 93L had a twin. What a strange year.


That's just 93L making the ITCZ act up.
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517. JLPR2 02:02 GMT le 10 août 2012    
Quoting Articuno:

80%.


You know, it sounds possible, considering the circles are 48hrs probabilities.
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518. MississippiWx 02:03 GMT le 10 août 2012    
Quoting MiamiHurricanes09:
I agree -- or before. 93L already looks better organized than 07L. Too bad Stewart isn't in the office tonight. ;(


Pasch wrote the first discussion for TD7. He basically split one paragraph into two which made it look longer. You would think they would enjoy the challenge of forecasting a new storm and get into more detail. Maybe not.
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519. KEEPEROFTHEGATE (Mod) 02:03 GMT le 10 août 2012    
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520. JLPR2 02:03 GMT le 10 août 2012    
Quoting Tazmanian:
i this noted some in a little odd with TD 7


TD 7 looks too be spining has if it was in the Southern Hemisphere



Ah yes, that is a neat effect of the anticyclonic flow above the TD.
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521. TropicalAnalystwx13 02:03 GMT le 10 août 2012    
Quoting Tazmanian:
i this noted some in a little odd with TD 7


TD 7 looks too be spining has if it was in the Southern Hemisphere


What the...
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522. weatherh98 02:04 GMT le 10 août 2012    
Quoting Tazmanian:
i this noted some in a little odd with TD 7


TD 7 looks too be spining has if it was in the Southern Hemisphere



I think thats just the way the clouds are booming still cool though!
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523. popartpete 02:04 GMT le 10 août 2012    
What are the chances of 93L hitting the U.S. coast, and where would it hit. I'm a "fearcaster" because I dread hurricanes and think they will all come here. I live in Seaside Heights, New Jersey on a barrier island.
We are long overdue for big ones.
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524. MississippiWx 02:04 GMT le 10 août 2012    
Quoting Tazmanian:
i this noted some in a little odd with TD 7


TD 7 looks too be spining has if it was in the Southern Hemisphere



Noticed that earlier as well. Probably has something to do with the convection being directly under the upper level anticyclone.
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525. MTWX 02:05 GMT le 10 août 2012    
SEVERE WEATHER STATEMENT
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE JACKSON MS
900 PM CDT THU AUG 9 2012

LAC041-065-107-100245-
/O.CON.KJAN.SV.W.0476.000000T0000Z-120810T0245Z/
TENSAS LA-FRANKLIN LA-MADISON LA-
900 PM CDT THU AUG 9 2012

...A SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WARNING REMAINS IN EFFECT UNTIL 945 PM CDT
FOR SOUTHWESTERN MADISON...EAST CENTRAL FRANKLIN AND NORTH CENTRAL
TENSAS PARISHES...

AT 901 PM CDT...NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE METEOROLOGISTS WERE TRACKING
A SEVERE THUNDERSTORM CAPABLE OF PRODUCING PING PONG BALL SIZE
HAIL...AND DAMAGING WINDS IN EXCESS OF 60 MPH. THIS STORM WAS
LOCATED NEAR NEWLIGHT MOVING SOUTH AT 10 MPH.

THE SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WILL OTHERWISE REMAIN OVER MAINLY RURAL AREAS
OF THE INDICATED PARISHES.

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526. weatherh98 02:05 GMT le 10 août 2012    
Quoting JLPR2:


Ah yes, that is a neat effect of the anticyclonic flow above the TD.


I dontthink thats an anticyclone effect... that looke to be froom the thunderstorms... your guess is as good as mine
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527. muddertracker 02:06 GMT le 10 août 2012    
Quoting KoritheMan:
I just spent the last three hours writing a blog. Check it out.


Awesome job! Very detailed!
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528. CybrTeddy 02:06 GMT le 10 août 2012    
Quoting Chiggy:


Then why bother posting if you think fish storms are boring?
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529. Tazmanian 02:07 GMT le 10 août 2012    
Quoting MississippiWx:


Noticed that earlier as well. Probably has something to do with the convection being directly under the upper level anticyclone.



thats cool
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530. TropicalAnalystwx13 02:07 GMT le 10 août 2012    
The only night I want to write a blog, I'm restricted by time. Go figure.
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531. Patrap 02:08 GMT le 10 août 2012    
TD 7

ShortWave IR2

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532. Patrap 02:08 GMT le 10 août 2012    
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533. Tazmanian 02:08 GMT le 10 août 2012    
Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:
The only night I want to write a blog, I'm restricted by time. Go figure.



dont you love school
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534. weatherh98 02:09 GMT le 10 août 2012    
Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:
The only night I want to write a blog, I'm restricted by time. Go figure.


school:/
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535. TropicalAnalystwx13 02:09 GMT le 10 août 2012    
Quoting Tazmanian:



dont you love school

Heck no.
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536. Patrap 02:09 GMT le 10 août 2012    
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537. MississippiWx 02:11 GMT le 10 août 2012    
Quoting CybrTeddy:


Then why bother posting if you think fish storms are boring?


If the entire US coastline doesn't look like this, then it is a boring storm to some.

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538. weatherh98 02:11 GMT le 10 août 2012    
Quoting Tazmanian:



dont you love school


Thats like asking if alberto was a hurricane
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539. MiamiHurricanes09 02:12 GMT le 10 août 2012    
Quoting MississippiWx:


Pasch wrote the first discussion for TD7. He basically split one paragraph into two which made it look longer. You would think they would enjoy the challenge of forecasting a new storm and get into more detail. Maybe not.
I mean, I don't even mind if you're posting quick discussions...but at least make it in-depth; that discussion was basically 1 big "idk". I'm done bashing though LOL.
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540. justsouthofnola 02:12 GMT le 10 août 2012    
Quoting MTWX:
SEVERE WEATHER STATEMENT
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE JACKSON MS
900 PM CDT THU AUG 9 2012

LAC041-065-107-100245-
/O.CON.KJAN.SV.W.0476.000000T0000Z-120810T0245Z/
TENSAS LA-FRANKLIN LA-MADISON LA-
900 PM CDT THU AUG 9 2012

...A SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WARNING REMAINS IN EFFECT UNTIL 945 PM CDT
FOR SOUTHWESTERN MADISON...EAST CENTRAL FRANKLIN AND NORTH CENTRAL
TENSAS PARISHES...

AT 901 PM CDT...NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE METEOROLOGISTS WERE TRACKING
A SEVERE THUNDERSTORM CAPABLE OF PRODUCING PING PONG BALL SIZE
HAIL...AND DAMAGING WINDS IN EXCESS OF 60 MPH. THIS STORM WAS
LOCATED NEAR NEWLIGHT MOVING SOUTH AT 10 MPH.

THE SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WILL OTHERWISE REMAIN OVER MAINLY RURAL AREAS
OF THE INDICATED PARISHES.



never seen that description before
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541. weatherh98 02:12 GMT le 10 août 2012    
goo' night
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542. Tazmanian 02:13 GMT le 10 août 2012    
Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:

Heck no.



LOL dran
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543. CosmicEvents 02:13 GMT le 10 août 2012    
Quoting Coastalgramps:


Dry air makes me happy. Less fuel to work with and less chance of a super storm.
Gramps, just reading back through the blog. Hope the shingles passes quickly, that can be painful. Be well. You are advancing meteorologically speaking by leaps and bounds. Faster feet(so to speak), than Bolt:)...very impressive under the circumstances.
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544. KEEPEROFTHEGATE (Mod) 02:14 GMT le 10 août 2012    
Quoting Tazmanian:
i this noted some in a little odd with TD 7


TD 7 looks too be spining has if it was in the Southern Hemisphere

well i hope thats not a pole shift
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545. Chiggy 02:14 GMT le 10 août 2012    
Quoting CybrTeddy:


Then why bother posting if you think fish storms are boring?


Well, I like to think I am entitled to my opinion, and you have to agree with me that they ARE boring as supposed to something similar brewing in the Caribbean or close to the US - that's all mate!
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546. Thing342 02:14 GMT le 10 août 2012    
Ernesto is already an orange blob in the EPAC.



1. THE MID-LEVEL REMNANT CIRCULATION OF ATLANTIC TROPICAL STORM ERNESTO
IS EXPECTED TO MOVE INTO THE EASTERN PACIFIC OCEAN IN A DAY OR SO.
ENVIRONMENTAL CONDITIONS ARE EXPECTED TO BECOME MORE CONDUCIVE FOR
DEVELOPMENT AFTER THAT TIME. THERE IS A MEDIUM CHANCE...30
PERCENT...OF TROPICAL CYCLONE FORMATION OFF THE WEST-CENTRAL COAST
OF MEXICO DURING THE NEXT 48 HOURS.
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547. congaline 02:15 GMT le 10 août 2012    
Let's Conga!
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549. scott39 02:16 GMT le 10 août 2012    
TD 7 wind shear enviroment is great for organizing. The SAL in front of it until 60W is a different story. If it makes it past the dry air without dissipating, then it will have to deal with the wind shear after that. It will have to be a survivor to make it past all of these obstacles IMO.
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550. CybrTeddy 02:18 GMT le 10 août 2012    
Quoting Chiggy:


Well, I like to think I am entitled to my opinion, and you have to agree with me that they ARE boring as supposed to something similar brewing in the Caribbean or close to the US - that's all mate!


Storms like Igor, Danielle, Julia, Bill, Katia, Ophelia are by far the most interesting storms you can get as most major hurricanes are 'fish' storm hurricanes.

Storms close to the US or some other land mass like what we just saw with Ernesto causes death, destruction, distraught and fear. Certainly, they're impressive and the Caribbean is known to produce extremely powerful storms, while we all may remark as to how beautiful the storm is on satellite most of us are thinking about what is going on under there.

With ''fish'' storms you don't have to worry about that fact.
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551. KEEPEROFTHEGATE (Mod) 02:18 GMT le 10 août 2012    
Quoting Coastalgramps:


The Mayans were right



well lets not go that far yet
but remember taz saw it first
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