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94L still disorganized; Hurricane Gordon bearing down on the Azores
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 14:44 GMT le 19 août 2012 +48
A tropical wave (Invest 94L) located midway between the Lesser Antilles Islands and the coast of Africa is headed west at 20 - 25 mph. This storm is a threat to develop into a tropical storm that will affect the Lesser Antilles Islands as early as Wednesday. The storm is under light wind shear of 5 - 10 knots, and is over waters of 27°C. A large area of dry air lies just to the north of 94L, as seen on the latest Saharan Air Layer (SAL) analysis and water vapor satellite loops. This dry air is interfering with development, and this morning's visible satellite loop shows that 94L's heavy thunderstorm activity is a bit sparse. The storm does have an impressive amount of spin at middle levels of the atmosphere, though. A pass from the Indian OceanSAT-2 satellite Saturday night at 10:06 pm EDT noted a broad, elongated center of nearly calm winds several hundred miles in diameter at the surface, and nothing resembling a well-organized closed surface circulation. 94L will pass near buoy 41041 on Monday morning. The first hurricane hunter mission into 94L is scheduled for Tuesday afternoon.


Figure 1. Morning satellite image of Invest 94L.

Forecast for 94L
The latest 8 am EDT run of the SHIPS model predicts that wind shear will be low, 5 - 10 knots, and ocean temperatures will be near 27°C through Monday, then warm to 28°C by Tuesday night. As is typical with storms making the crossing from Africa to the Antilles, dry air to the north will likely interfere with development, and the SHIPS model predicts increased dry air as 94L approaches the Lesser Antilles on Wednesday. However, with shear expected to be low, dry air may be less of an issue for 94L than it was for Ernesto or TD 7. Our two best performing models--the GFS and ECMWF--have both been taking 94L through the Lesser Antilles with every run for the past 36 hours. Both models continue to agree on the timing, with 94L arriving Wednesday night or Thursday morning. The BAMM model, which performed as well as the ECMWF and GFS at 5-day forecasts in 2011, is showing a track just north of the Lesser Antilles. Given this agreement among our top three models for long-range forecasts, I give a 60% chance that 94L will pass through the Lesser Antilles. In their 8 am EDT Tropical Weather Outlook, NHC gave 94L a 60% chance of developing into a tropical depression by Tuesday morning. The GFS model has backed off on its forecast that 94L will develop into a hurricane before reaching the islands, and is now predicting 94L will be a tropical storm with 40 - 50 mph winds at that time. The ECMWF model does not develop 94L. It is unlikely that 94L will be able to organize quickly enough to become anything stronger than a Category 1 hurricane before reaching the islands, given the storm's current struggles with dry air, and the lack of model support for intensification. With 94L staying relatively weak and disorganized, the chances of it turning to the northwest and missing the Lesser Antilles, as the NOGAPS model has been predicting, are diminishing. The GFS model predicts that 94L will go on to hit the Dominican Republic as a strong tropical storm on Friday, though the storm could also miss the island, passing just to the north or the south. At longer ranges, the storm is capable of going anywhere from Canada to Mexico's Yucatan Peninsula; it's too early to tell.


Figure 2. The 00Z (8 pm EDT) run of the GFS model from August 18, 2012, was done 20 different times at low resolution using slightly different initial conditions to generate an ensemble of forecasts (pink lines.) The high-resolution operational GFS forecast is shown in white. The GFS ensemble forecast is showing decreasing risk to the U.S. East Coast at long ranges, and an increasing risk to the Gulf Coast.

Gordon bears down on the Azores
Hurricane warnings are flying for the central and eastern Azores Islands as Hurricane Gordon barrels eastwards at 21 mph. Gordon's peak 110 mph winds it had last night made it the strongest hurricane of the 2012 Atlantic hurricane season so far. Latest visible satellite loops show that cold water and high wind shear are taking a toll on Gordon, with the southern portion of the storm deteriorating and the eye beginning to open up. However, Gordon will still be a Category 1 hurricane or strong tropical storm when it passes through the Azores Monday morning. Winds at Ponta Delgada were 11 mph out of the east at 10 am EDT this morning, but will rise through the day as Gordon approaches.

Gordon is not a threat to any other land areas, and the extratropical remnants of Gordon will not bring any strong winds or significant rain to Europe. The last time the Azores were affected by a tropical storm was in 2009, when Tropical Storm Grace brought 65 mph winds on October 4. No significant damage was reported. Ironically, the last hurricane to affect the Azores was the 2006 version of Hurricane Gordon, which caused minor damage in the Azores, consisting of mostly fallen trees and power outages. However, after Gordon became an extratropical low, four injuries due to falling debris from high wind were reported in Spain, and Gordon brought high winds and rain that affected practice rounds at the Ryder Cup golf tournament in Ireland.


Figure 3. MODIS satellite image of Hurricane Gordon taken on Saturday August 18, 2012, at 11:50 am EDT. At the time, Gordon was a Category 1 hurricane with 80 mph winds. Image credit: Navy Research Lab, Monterey.

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1301. StormJunkie 21:05 GMT le 19 août 2012    
Quoting Patrap:


Dunno, maybe ask the Junkie


:0


Sure does y'all. That's why they have labeled it invest 95L (L is used for Atlantic storms). And may actually develop before it heads back in to Mexico or extreme S Texas. Glad to help out anytime I can, although I'm not an expert by any means. Always learning just like y'all.
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1302. bappit 21:05 GMT le 19 août 2012    
Quoting bappit:

Someone a blog back asked why the GFS is south and west of the GEFS members. The only thing I am aware of is that the GEFS members are lower resolution. Does anyone know if a poleward bias comes from a lower resolution?
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1303. MAweatherboy1 21:06 GMT le 19 août 2012    
Sorry if this was posted but the HWRF has jumped on to development:

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1304. MississippiWx 21:06 GMT le 19 août 2012    
Quoting tropicfreak:
Levi or Misswx... why is 95L an invest when it is a remnant low of Helene. Wouldn't they use Ex or remnants of Helene? Why are they moving on to a new name?


The surface circulation of Helene most likely dissipated, leaving only mid-level remnants which are now interacting with the surface trof over the Western Gulf.
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1305. Patrap 21:06 GMT le 19 août 2012    
Ike was a full Month Later at landfall almost so the analogue is skewed by climo one could say.
But I understand yer drift.

That's what we do here, share and learn, well until..u know
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1306. Tazmanian 21:07 GMT le 19 août 2012    
Quoting tropicfreak:
Levi or Misswx... why is 95L an invest when it is a remnant low of Helene. Wouldn't they use Ex or remnants of Helene? Why are they moving on to a new name?




Helene went poof overe MX there are no lift overes


95L is a hole new thing at so from the 2pm two there is no wording of Helene on it





SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS LOCATED OVER THE SOUTHWESTERN GULF OF
MEXICO ARE ASSOCIATED WITH A SURFACE TROUGH. SOME GRADUAL
DEVELOPMENT OF THIS SYSTEM IS POSSIBLE AS IT MOVES LITTLE DURING
THE NEXT DAY OR SO. THIS SYSTEM HAS A LOW CHANCE...20 PERCENT...OF
BECOMING A TROPICAL CYCLONE DURING THE NEXT 48 HOURS. REGARDLESS OF
DEVELOPMENT...HEAVY RAINFALL IS POSSIBLE IN THE MEXICAN STATES OF
TAMAULIPAS AND VERACRUZ DURING THE NEXT DAY OR TWO
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1307. yoboi 21:07 GMT le 19 août 2012    
Quoting yoboi:
AFDLCH

AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE LAKE CHARLES LA
215 PM CDT SUN AUG 19 2012

.SYNOPSIS...
A COLD FRONT EXTENDS THROUGH JACKSON THROUGH BEAUMONT THIS
EVENING...WILL TRAVEL SOUTH AND EAST...EXITING INTO THE NORTHWEST
GULF OF MEXICO BY MONDAY MORNING...BEFORE STALLING OUT.

&&

.DISCUSSION...
COOL MIDWEST AIR WILL TRAVEL INTO THE WESTERN UPPER GULF COAST
STATES BEHIND THE DEPARTING FROT.

UNSEASONABLY DRY AIR WILL BE IN PLACE OVER THE NEXT FEW DAYS.

&&

.OUTLOOK...
THE BERMUDA HIGH PRESSURE SYSTEM WILL DRIFT NORTHWARD BY
MIDWEEK...SHOVING STALLED FRONT NORTHWARD. GULF MOISTURE WILL
RETURN BY FRIDAY.

&&

.PRELIMINARY POINT TEMPS/POPS...
KLCH 72 91 69 90 69 / 20 10 10 10 10
KBPT 72 91 70 92 69 / 20 10 10 10 10
KAEX 69 89 66 90 65 / 10 10 10 10 10
KLFT 71 89 70 90 69 / 20 10 10 10 10

&&

.LCH WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES...
LA...NONE.
TX...NONE.
GM...NONE.
&&
JT

$$




looks like more rain for louisiana later this week...
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1308. tropicfreak 21:08 GMT le 19 août 2012    
Quoting MississippiWx:


The surface circulation of Helene most likely dissipated, leaving only mid-level remnants which are now interacting with the surface trof over the Western Gulf.


Thanks very much!
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1309. wunderkidcayman 21:08 GMT le 19 août 2012    
ok my model is in gray and labled CHC

it is a mix of the TCVN and the AVNI



intensity forecast mine is in Gray

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1310. bappit 21:08 GMT le 19 août 2012    
Quoting tropicfreak:
Levi or Misswx... why is 95L an invest when it is a remnant low of Helene. Wouldn't they use Ex or remnants of Helene? Why are they moving on to a new name?

They are distinct as nrtiwlnvragn recently pointed out.
Quoting nrtiwlnvragn:
Different coordinates between Invest 95L and Helene for the same date/timestamp:


AL 95 2012081818 BEST 0 215N 978W 20 1009 DB
AL 95 2012081900 BEST 0 215N 979W 20 1009 DB
AL 95 2012081906 BEST 0 216N 980W 20 1009 DB
AL 95 2012081912 BEST 0 217N 981W 20 1010 DB



AL 07 2012081818 BEST 0 225N 987W 25 1009 TD
AL 07 2012081900 BEST 0 227N 989W 25 1009 LO
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1311. MAweatherboy1 21:08 GMT le 19 août 2012    
CPC has a lot of green in the East... I don't know if that's 94L related though.

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1312. floridaboy14 21:09 GMT le 19 août 2012    
Quoting MAweatherboy1:
Sorry if this was posted but the HWRF has jumped on to development:

once again in the carribean again...
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1313. Tsovinar 21:09 GMT le 19 août 2012    
Quoting presslord:
Does it ever occur to any of you arrogant asshats that there might be more to it than just spelling and grammar?!?!


Nah, because correcting the spelling and grammar of complete strangers on the internet, who won't appreciate the correction anyway, is always such an efficient use of everyone's time that we'll do that first.

On topic, someone mentioned webcams for the Azores? Any links still available?
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1314. louisianaweatherguy 21:09 GMT le 19 août 2012    
95L has quite a little circulation going with it...
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1315. gordydunnot 21:10 GMT le 19 août 2012    
Center is certainly at aprx. 15n or just south of that. But there does appear to be multiple areas trying to spin up in what i believe the NHC described earlier as a monsoonal trough. That's why I believe this is tough to come up with a long range track at this time.
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1316. HurricaneSwirl 21:10 GMT le 19 août 2012    
Quoting wunderkidcayman:
ok my model is in gray and labled CHC

it is a mix of the TCVN and the AVNI



intensity forecast mine is in Gray



Why am I not surprised you have it going right over the caymans as a major hurricane?
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1317. Felix2007 21:11 GMT le 19 août 2012    
Quoting MAweatherboy1:
CPC has a lot of green in the East... I don't know if that's 94L related though.



Which would mean it's not going to the Gulf seeing as Texas is still shown as bone dry and the rest of the Gulf is average.
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1319. MAweatherboy1 21:11 GMT le 19 août 2012    
Wouldn't it be something if this becomes Isaac...

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1320. tropicfreak 21:11 GMT le 19 août 2012    
Quoting washingtonian115:
You on to something Pat?.I'm not yet sold on a Caribbean cruzer yet.I think a Irene track is more likely.JMO....


Or Floyd, Bertha(96).

Please God no!
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1321. JBirdFireMedic 21:11 GMT le 19 août 2012    
Quoting canehater1:


There is a trough in SW Gulf and now an unusually
strong front is pushing South and will stall from
SE La. to Tx/Mx border. I am in Central Gulf at
27.7 N and 92 W We have had 20-30 kt S-SW winds
all day and now getting storms along the frontal
boundary..More like a Fall type event.... will be
interesting to see what happens with Helenes remnants
and the frontal boudary once it goes stationary.


27.17N 90.58W here. GC680. Same conditions.
Yes it will be.
Watching 94L closely for the next week as well.
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1322. TropicalAnalystwx13 21:12 GMT le 19 août 2012    
Quoting HurricaneSwirl:


Why am I not surprised you have it going right over the caymans as a major hurricane?

LOL.
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1323. Felix2007 21:12 GMT le 19 août 2012    
So which one do you guys think will win the race to Isaac, 94L or 95L?
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1324. Tazmanian 21:12 GMT le 19 août 2012    
Quoting MAweatherboy1:
Wouldn't it be something if this becomes Isaac...




yes it would i think the hole blog would be mad with 95L too
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1325. Hurricanes101 21:13 GMT le 19 août 2012    
Quoting StormJunkie:


Sure does y'all. That's why they have labeled it invest 95L (L is used for Atlantic storms). And may actually develop before it heads back in to Mexico or extreme S Texas. Glad to help out anytime I can, although I'm not an expert by any means. Always learning just like y'all.


why would it go right back west or NW, isn't there is a front right in the vicinity?

wouldn't that move it NE?
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1326. TropicalAnalystwx13 21:13 GMT le 19 août 2012    
Quoting Felix2007:
So which one do you guys think win the race to Isaac, 94L or 95L?

94L by far.
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1327. redwagon 21:13 GMT le 19 août 2012    
Quoting Felix2007:


Which would mean it's not going to the Gulf seeing as Texas is still shown as bone dry.

Gosh knows what gets plugged into those precipitation models. And unplugged.
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1328. wxmobilejim 21:13 GMT le 19 août 2012    
18z GFS Should be running within the hour. I'm interested in seeing if it sticks with a gulf storm.
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1330. wunderkidcayman 21:13 GMT le 19 août 2012    
Quoting HurricaneSwirl:


Why am I not surprised you have it going right over the caymans as a major hurricane?


no its not over the cayman islands at all its south of there and interms of intensity is due to the SHIPS
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1331. MAweatherboy1 21:13 GMT le 19 août 2012    
Quoting HurricaneSwirl:


Why am I not surprised you have it going right over the caymans as a major hurricane?

Its possible one of those things happen, but not both. If this goes to the Caribbean, it will be weak, at least until it gets to the Gulf/far west Caribbean. If it is to become a major quickly like he suggests it has to go north.
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1332. tropicfreak 21:13 GMT le 19 août 2012    
Quoting MAweatherboy1:
Wouldn't it be something if this becomes Isaac...



The race to Issac....
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1333. StormJunkie 21:14 GMT le 19 août 2012    
Quoting Felix2007:
So which one do you guys think win the race to Isaac, 94L or 95L?


Not sure about Isaac, but to TD I am betting on 95 strictly due to its proximity to land.
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1334. floridaboy14 21:14 GMT le 19 août 2012    
Quoting MAweatherboy1:
Wouldn't it be something if this becomes Isaac...

better not. they should just call it helene again
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1335. washingtonian115 21:14 GMT le 19 août 2012    
All I know is I don't want no hurricane running up the coast .
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1336. barbados246 21:14 GMT le 19 août 2012    
Quoting Levi32:

Hey Levi do you think we here in barbados would get any rains or gusts from 94L?

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1337. HurricaneDean07 21:14 GMT le 19 août 2012    
Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:

LOL.

Im to the point where Im ignoring anyone that doesn't have something "Decent" to say...
basically, wunderkid is about to meet my ignore list...
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1338. Bluestorm5 21:15 GMT le 19 août 2012    
Quoting Felix2007:
So which one do you guys think will win the race to Isaac, 94L or 95L?
94L is closer.
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1339. presslord 21:15 GMT le 19 août 2012    
Quoting washingtonian115:
All I know is I don't want no hurricane running up the coast .


Uh-greed!
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1340. Patrap 21:15 GMT le 19 août 2012    
94L Rainbow




95L Rainbow



Actual Rainbow


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1341. superpete 21:16 GMT le 19 août 2012    
94L showing a westward/ south-westward movement. Clearly visible on JSL Floater ( link encl')

Link
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1342. yoboi 21:17 GMT le 19 août 2012    
Quoting Tazmanian:



yes it would i think the hole blog would be mad with 95L too


95 is getting some good spin going this eve...
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1343. isuxn2 21:17 GMT le 19 août 2012    
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1344. louisianaweatherguy 21:17 GMT le 19 août 2012    
hmmm... the race for Isaac... lol in my opinion I think 95L will get it because of how close it is to land and looking at the spin it's gained over the last several frames....

kinda has me worried a lil
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1345. StormJunkie 21:17 GMT le 19 août 2012    
Quoting Hurricanes101:


why would it go right back west or NW if there is a front right in the vicinity?

wouldn't that move it NE?


NNE maybe? I don't think it could go NE. Still not sure though. Maybe Levi or someone could chime in on that. Again though, going with the last forecast for Helena, the typical track of storms so far this year...I'm guessing it is headed right back over land.
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1346. Tazmanian 21:18 GMT le 19 août 2012    
Quoting yoboi:


95 is getting some good spin going this eve...



yep


95L will be the I storm 1st
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1347. Levi32 21:18 GMT le 19 août 2012    
Quoting barbados246:
Hey Levi do you think we here in barbados would get any rains or gusts from 94L?


It's a pretty large system so it's definitely possible, but given how far north it is already you are likely to miss the bulk of the storm.
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1349. gordydunnot 21:18 GMT le 19 août 2012    
It's hard for a storm to run ne when the front has already moved ne of the system. It may stall as the NHC says and be picked up by the next trough. Usually to the nw at first. So to me a lot depends on how far east 95l may drift or form as to how close it will get to Texas.
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1350. aquak9 21:18 GMT le 19 août 2012    
Quoting JBirdFireMedic:


27.17N 90.58W here. GC680. Same conditions.
Yes it will be.
Watching 94L closely for the next week as well.


Anadarko, copy.
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1351. stormpetrol 21:18 GMT le 19 août 2012    
I don't think 94L will recurve before the western Caribbean, this one could well end up in the GOM.
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