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State of U.S. global warming efforts: Business as Usual
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 14:49 GMT le 24 janvier 2007 +3
President Bush spoke of "the serious challenge of global climate change" in his State of the Union speech last night, and called for the U.S. to reduce gasoline consumption 20 percent over the next 10 years. The reduction in gasoline consumption would primarily be achieved through promotion of alternative fuels such as ethanol and liquefied coal. While it is a pleasant change to hear the president acknowledge the reality of the climate change problem and to propose measures that could significantly reduce U.S. consumption of foreign oil, his proposals do virtually nothing to combat global warming.

About one third of greenhouse gases emissions in the the U.S. come from cars and trucks. Thus, a 20% cut in gasoline consumption would reduce U.S. greenhouse gas emissions by about 6%, at best. Since a large portion of the gasoline reduction would come from liquefied coal--which, when burned, makes double the CO2 of burning gasoline--even this modest 6% decrease in emissions might end up at zero. The President offered no plan to reduce greenhouse gas emissions from electric utilities or industry, whose emissions will continue to grow at about 2% per year. Overall, greenhouse gas emission will grow by 14% over the next decade under the President's plan, according to Philip Clapp, president of the National Environmental Trust. The consensus among most climate scientists is that emission of greenhouse gases must be radically cut 50-60% globally by 2050 in order to avoid dangerous levels of global warming. The President's business-as-usual plan to allow emissions to increase by 14% over the next decade will make it extremely difficult to achieve that goal, as the U.S. contributes about 25% of the world's greenhouse gas emissions.

Jeff Masters
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351. Tazmanian 16:42 GMT le 25 janvier 2007    
run for the hills
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352. weatherboykris 16:46 GMT le 25 janvier 2007    
be back later
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353. Tazmanian 16:51 GMT le 25 janvier 2007    
you all no what went on back in the hurricane Season 2005 right will we could see the same thing i am not saying we would but we could
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354. hurricane23 17:01 GMT le 25 janvier 2007    
We may indeed face another active season number wise but alot of other factors are also invovled in development of tropical cyclones.A strong bermuda high can cause dust to blow across the atlantic basin as we have seen before also SST'S are also very important.My point is it takes alot more then warm water for tropical storm formation.A year like 1995 would be quite pleasent were most activity gets turn out to sea.

Hopefully ULL's will dominate the basin and dry air will be all over place surpressing activity.

Just for fun take a look at all the dust across the basin right now...Would't it be great if things stayed this way.

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355. grimmdogg23 17:02 GMT le 25 janvier 2007    
Ricderr, I have no problem with your ideas. If everything fell into place like that. I was simply saying that telling people with SUV that they have to buy new cars with better mpg ratings is ludacris. I own my car now after 3 years of payments. So simply buying a newer car is out of the budget and and unwanted expense. However, if things went according to your plan then the years it would take to implement would allow me to shoulder the burden. I actually agree with you on these points. I would take a hybrid SUV or truck that gets around 30 mpg to my 18 hwy any day. I just don't have the money. If I did I would do it in a heartbeat.
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356. Tazmanian 17:06 GMT le 25 janvier 2007    
well it way too soon yet not evere year can have ULL like last year we sould tell where the high will set up shop by may at the most
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357. ricderr 17:09 GMT le 25 janvier 2007    
ummm..be careful grim..you and i in agreement..could mean you're turning into a left wing liberal cumministic leaning eoc devotee....darn scary..LMAO.....now..i think..if it's proven that we need to make changes....it's going to take years to implement changes..as it took years to get to where we are now....i remember back a few years ago..it was popular for some extremist thinkers to say that man needed to become extint for the planet to survive....that..just aint gonna happen
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358. hurricane23 17:10 GMT le 25 janvier 2007    
Wow my temp just dropped to 62 degrees in the past hour.Before the front came threw temps were in the mid 70's.Refreshing!
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359. ricderr 17:12 GMT le 25 janvier 2007    
hey h23....are you also on hurricane alley or were on there as h23?
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360. grimmdogg23 17:12 GMT le 25 janvier 2007    
Ric, We agree sometime withouth the Earth spinning off of it's axis. You just showed ideas and creative thoughts on the SUV, big truck problem. Snowboy basically said get rid of them or else.
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361. Tazmanian 17:13 GMT le 25 janvier 2007    
well it way too soon yet not evere year can have ULL like last year we sould tell where the high will set up shop by may at the most

am i right evere one
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362. Thunderstorm2 17:13 GMT le 25 janvier 2007    
Rain sweeped over me and now my temp is now at 52 °F. Cold
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363. hurricane23 17:17 GMT le 25 janvier 2007    
Going to be chilly tonight once cloud cover moves out for sure.Hopefully they will hang around and keep temps from dropping to much.
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364. auburn (Mod) 17:19 GMT le 25 janvier 2007    
some one needs to manufacture a cost effective retro fit engine to replace the engine in existing trucks...I have a yard full of land barges...but that the type vehicle I have to have...I love my trucks...and some of them are paid for...not willing to part with them just yet...but I would modify them if there was a way to do so
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365. Thunderstorm2 17:21 GMT le 25 janvier 2007    
Im living without heating still so it colder in my house
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366. pottery 17:27 GMT le 25 janvier 2007    
Interesting comments on CO2, suv's, who's to blame ect. and the fact that India, China ect will be doing more damage than " us " or " them ". The point is that we have reached a critical point in weather/climate/ecology interferance. What was done in the past is not relevant to where we are now, or to how we proceed. Those that are aware of the solutions need to lobby their goverments to change strategies to slow the creation of polutants still further. Much has been done, plenty more needs doing...........
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367. HurricaneMyles 17:29 GMT le 25 janvier 2007    
Taz...You're right on the too soon part... for anything. We dont have a slight clue how things will play out. The difference between a storm quickly becoming a major hurricane or struggling just to get Cat 1 is the 100 or so miles difference in upper low placement or dust cloud location or cool SST spot. These details are important and we cant see those this far out.
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368. pottery 17:32 GMT le 25 janvier 2007    
Here in Trinidad/Tobago, there is a big trade going on , in used Japanese cars and engines. Many people here are re-powering older vehicles with newer engines that are smaller, more powerful and more efficient.Thats an option for you to look at, Auburn...........
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369. Tazmanian 17:33 GMT le 25 janvier 2007    
HurricaneMyles we will have to wait in tell may too see where evere thing will set up shop
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370. Tazmanian 17:33 GMT le 25 janvier 2007    
i can not get my time off of GMT time
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371. ProgressivePulse 17:36 GMT le 25 janvier 2007    
LOL H23! You can have your 1995! Cat2 Erin and TS Jerry made landfall around the same locations as Frances and Jeanne. I'll take another year please. Florida got hit by 2 Hurricanes and 2 Tropical Storms that year. We are trying to reduce our insurance costs, that would not help!
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372. pottery 17:38 GMT le 25 janvier 2007    
Also, CNG is a viable option but the drawback is having to find a space for a large tank of pressurised gas........many people here have them, but at the expense of most of their trunk.
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373. pottery 17:40 GMT le 25 janvier 2007    
OH, and you need a specialised filling station for CNG too.........
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374. Tazmanian 17:42 GMT le 25 janvier 2007    
like i said it is way to soon on where the high will set up shop will will have to wait in tell may then we can tell where thing will go

it can go two ways

1 it can go out to sea like last year

or 2 it could hit the usa

but for right now it way to soon

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375. auburn (Mod) 17:42 GMT le 25 janvier 2007    
CNG isn't offered on trips and such is it?(along the interstate)
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376. auburn (Mod) 17:44 GMT le 25 janvier 2007    
I guess you answered that already...lol
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377. weatherboykris 17:45 GMT le 25 janvier 2007    
down to 60.6F here.The front is having an effect!
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378. weatherboykris 17:46 GMT le 25 janvier 2007    
Going to be chilly tonight once cloud cover moves out for sure.Hopefully they will hang around and keep temps from dropping to much.


No way!Bring on the chill!
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379. ProgressivePulse 17:46 GMT le 25 janvier 2007    
In my home town of South Bend Indiana, all of the trucks for the utilities companies run on natural gas. Most cars can be converted with the purchace of a kit. Problem lies when you have to fill up, you must go to a Nipsco (Gas Company) building. There are 3 in a 50 mile radius, and yes you loose half your trunk. Hate to get rear ended too, that could get messy.
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380. pottery 17:46 GMT le 25 janvier 2007    
Hey Thunderstorm2, living without your heater is good for the rest of us. Thanks. I have today sent you a dollar so that you can buy more socks to keep warm..

come to think of it, it probably cost 10 times more to make the socks ( in co2 ) than you will save by not heating for a year. Oh well........
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381. Thunderstorm2 17:50 GMT le 25 janvier 2007    
Hello again everyone
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382. pottery 17:51 GMT le 25 janvier 2007    
Yeah Pulse, but I think those cng tanks are stronger than your standard gas tank. Never heard of one exploding, ( exept last week ! But it seems that it was a home-made version ) Blew up in a filling station too !!!!!
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383. weatherboykris 17:52 GMT le 25 janvier 2007    
talk about bad model initialization!Link
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384. pottery 17:53 GMT le 25 janvier 2007    
Back later !
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385. ProgressivePulse 17:54 GMT le 25 janvier 2007    
I agree weatherboy! Nice break from the heat, which will be here again before we know it.
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386. weatherboykris 17:56 GMT le 25 janvier 2007    
Yeah,but there's another cold front coming next week.
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387. auburn (Mod) 17:57 GMT le 25 janvier 2007    
what about a sterling hy-brid..LOL
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388. Patrap 18:00 GMT le 25 janvier 2007    
With Oil Interest and Old Men in control of Geo-political scenarios...which will continue into the near future,All we talk about here is moot.Good words for sure.But the Dollars and Political interest will trump all of these good Ideas.The spice must flow..and it is Sweet Crude. Sad..but true.The way the Mideast goes..is the true scary part. Large Scale Conflict is almost certain.The place and when is all thats left to be determined.Thats my take on it.If the GW trends noted of late on a Global scale continue..the Damage is expoentially progressing.Time..is running.Green vs Oil isnt the War.The War will be over the Reserves of Oil yet to be ciphered from Certain Countries. Venezula has done the best Job..sadly..of pushing a plant based system.And look at that Leader.Its a Funny world.
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389. ProgressivePulse 18:01 GMT le 25 janvier 2007    
It is old technology that could be integrated instantly, if they wanted too. Woulden't take much for the car companies to replace the gas tank and free up the trunk. They can run a fill hose from your house so you can fill up your own car. Sounds easy doesn't it lol.
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390. ProgressivePulse 18:03 GMT le 25 janvier 2007    
Propane can be used for folks without natural gas service. Those tanks can be housed above ground.
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391. auburn (Mod) 18:03 GMT le 25 janvier 2007    
no...I am in the county...LPG here lol
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392. ProgressivePulse 18:06 GMT le 25 janvier 2007    
You could probably find a way to use the discharge gas from landfills with a little effort.
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393. MisterPerfect 18:06 GMT le 25 janvier 2007    
Cold front moving through Florida really cooled us off. It only took 3 weeks for a cool breeze to pass by. Good job arctic!
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394. Snowfire 18:06 GMT le 25 janvier 2007    
This from ABC News...

Is Global Warming Leading to Extinction?
Scientists Fear Rising Temperatures Are Endangering Many Species
By BILL BLAKEMORE

July 18, 2005 — - At the end of a rugged road, two hours from downtown San Diego, scientists are hoping to find a Checkerspot butterfly -- and avoid stepping on a few tiny black caterpillars.

"In the 1950s, over the whole city, you literally had millions of these [Checkerspots] flying around -- so thick, you had to turn on the windshield wipers," says biologist Camille Parmesan with the University of Texas in Austin.

Meanwhile, other scientists are finding similar voids among Harlequin frogs usually found in the Monteverde Cloud Forest Preserve of Costa Rica.

"They used to be so common, you had to be careful not to step on them as you walked along the stream margins," says Alan Pounds, an ecologist and resident scientist at the preserve. "There's an overall effect that is related to the climate change. But the most dramatic changes, the frightening changes are the complete extinctions of certain species."

The wild orchids here are also in danger from global warming, say scientists.

"If the climate of Monteverde continues to change, I don't see how extinction can be avoided," says Karen Masters, a conservation biologist for the Council for International Educational Exchange at Monteverde.

But the changes -- and missing plants and animals -- aren't just in the lush forests of Costa Rica. On the other side of the planet on a remote jungle ridge in Madagascar, an American expedition finds three entire species of frog missing.

"Perhaps they have gone extinct," says Christopher Raxworthy, associate curator of the American Museum of Natural History's Division of Vertebrate Zoology. "If you had an increase in temperature, this is exactly what you would expect."

Global Warming, Global Threat

All over the planet, hundreds of scientists are finding plants and animals suddenly scattering, withering or outright disappearing as our world approaches sustained temperatures higher than today's species ever evolved to be able to survive in.

The new heat wave is attacking in many ways -- from melting the sea-ice that polar bears need for hunting to bringing tropical rains two months too early, so plants blossom too soon to feed the animals that depend on them.

Three separate scientific survey studies, which pull together hundreds of field studies from around the world, add to the same picture. The increase in the average global temperature is causing havoc in many ecosystems -- and on a scale that's hard, at first, even to imagine.

One study by 19 established scientists on five continents, predicts "on the basis of mid-range climate warming scenarios, for 2050, that 15 [percent] to 37 percent of species in our sample will be committed to extinction."

"Do we want to destroy the creation? That's the question," says Edward O. Wilson, professor and curator of entomology at the Museum of Comparative Zoology at Harvard University. "That's what we're doing -- and at an accelerating rate."

For half a century, Wilson has uncovered the cohesive complexity of all life on Earth and focused on how its rich biodiversity is being destroyed by human attacks, ranging from spreading pesticides to wiping out wildlife habitats. He's found it painful to assess how global warming is now piling its assaults on top of all the others.

"I'm optimistic by nature, but I have to admit it's getting scary," says Wilson. "Most people who've analyzed the situation believe that we could -- again, if the situation is unabated -- could lose half the species of plants and animals in the world by the end of the 21st century. We're simply plinking them out of existence -- in many cases without even knowing what they are."

Nobody meant for this to happen. And as hard news about global warming has become visible -- glaciers melting fast around the world, more frequent spikes in heat-driven weather -- there's been emotional debate. Some who deny it's even happening are accused by others of just being in denial.

It's not surprising there's been such disagreement and confusion about global warming because, in one sense, it's quite simply the biggest problem we've ever faced. It's affecting the entire planet -- and all at once.

And since the warming atmosphere envelops all life forms in its blanket, this is also the most complex story ever. Many millions of species with their intricate patterns of inter-dependence are each disrupted differently.

So to begin to understand it, we need people who are not afraid of complexity, who even enjoy it -- such as the scientists we sought out for this report.

Butterfly Lessons

First, biologist Camille Parmesan explains a few basics of the worldwide problem, with the help of the Checkerspot butterfly.

"This is their main food plant, goldfields intermixed with plantain," says Parmesan. "They really like these little white and yellow flowers because they have very short tongues. You can see him probing into the flower."

Parmesan is also the lead author of a global survey that finds half of all plant and animal species on Earth are already affected by the warming.

But her specialty is butterflies. Around the world, she's found the same north-south extinction pattern as here, just a few yards from the California-Mexico border.

"In the northern part of its range, humans have caused a lot of extinctions because humans have destroyed almost all of its habitat," says Parmesan. "Down at the southern edge of its range, in Baja, it's been getting warmer and drier and these little host plants have been drying up too quickly and the caterpillars have been starving."

"It's a classic case of a species that is squeezed between the forces of climate change driving it extinct in the south and human habitat destruction driving it extinct in the north," says Parmesan.

This year, something in the weather made them hatch two months too soon. When biologists checked this remote mesa top a few weeks later, they found that the few Checkerspots left no eggs and no caterpillars. With no next generation, a natural part of Southern California comes even closer to extinction.

Perils at a Preserve

Costa Rica's Monteverde is a land of rainbows because it's a land of rain and, even more, of mists and clouds. Its creatures and plants evolved over millions of years to live in and use the mist that blows at them.

Some 500 kinds of orchids get their only nutrients from its droplets, says Monteverde's biologist, Karen Masters.

"It carries all their food," she says. "Cloud and mist water have high concentrations of hydrogen ions, nitrates, ammonium ions… and so they are nutrient rich."

The mist's cooling moisture is vital to thousands of local animal species, like this captive glass frog, whose pumping heart you can see through its skin. Glass frogs also sing.

"This used to be a great place for listening to glass frogs at night," says Pounds. "You could hear them over the roar of the waterfall"

But not any longer. Since the late 1980s, this Cloud Forest preserve has been under a complicated attack from global warming. "Birds, reptiles, mammals… a variety of species have been affected," says Pounds.

Where Have All the Clouds Gone?

We first met American scientist Alan Pounds here 11 years ago when he was trying to figure out why Monteverde's famous Golden Toad and Harlequin frog had vanished.

He had begun to suspect something in the weather. And now, still living in his tiny house in the forest and crunching hard data that he and others have collected, he's got some answers.

After years of monitoring animal populations, tracking fluctuations in the mist and working with climatologists, he found the warmer temperatures are making the clouds form higher up. The clouds' base had lifted, making "them less effective in delivering moisture to the forest," says Pounds.

The normal brief dry spells, have been getting longer. And plotting the length of dry spells each year, parallel to the number of species that disappeared each year, he found they matched exactly.

"The patterns suggest quite strongly that the changes are climate-related," says Pounds.

Invasion of the Aggressors

The warmer temperatures attack different species differently. And scientists such as Pounds can't always tell exactly how it attacks any one species. Monteverde's missing frogs may well have succumbed to a fungus that clogs their permeable skin.

"We think changing climate is affecting the probability of outbreaks or helping certain diseases spread over the landscape, loading the dice for epidemic outbreaks," says Pounds.

But animals that don't get that disease -- birds, insects and reptiles -- also disappeared in the drier years. The reason might be because as the clouds move up the mountain, so do other more aggressive species.

Pounds showed us lizards and birds such as the long-beaked toucan.

"This is a toucan from further down the mountain but it's started moving up into the cloud forest," says Pounds. Its big beak is adapted to reach into nests of other species and steal eggs.

"There's a lizard," he showed us. "This is an example of a species that has moved up the mountain. It's increasing in abundance at this altitude and the species that used to be very abundant here? Now, we don't see them at all."

No Refuge at the Mountain Top

Such changes are occurring atop other tropical mountains also bathed in mist -- in Madagascar. Expeditions led by scientist Chris Raxworthy of the American Museum of Natural History, also find a number of animal species are scrambling upslope in tandem with the rising temperatures.

But even at the top of the mountain, there may be no safety. Scientists there find that three species of frogs, last seen in 1993, are now missing.

"All three of them were found at the very top of the mountain," says Raxworthy. "Perhaps they've gone extinct… when species get to the top of a mountain they have nowhere to migrate to, they have no option but to go extinct."

Species have started "falling off mountaintops," as scientists put it, in many countries.

Lower elevation species have another problem. As animals seek cooler ground -- up-slope or toward the global poles -- they often bump into human civilization. Multi-lane highways, giant malls, cities and other natural areas clear cut for human become unpassable for wild species.

Orchids in the Mist

It's not just animals affected by the temperature changes either. Plants, the basis of all animal life, struggle with global warming as we found back among the rich plant life of Costa Rica.

Two-thirds of Monteverde's plant species, including its orchids, never touch the ground because they're epiphytes -- plants that grow on top of other plants. So changes that affect one plant, may bring adverse effects to all the other plants that are supported by it.

Look closely at Monteverde's orchids, as American scientist Karen Masters does, and you see some already in serious trouble.

"I'm trying to mimic the mist frequencies of the 1970s, so I collect mist daily and apply it to each individual orchid," says Masters.

Half of the test-orchids in the forest get sprayed by Masters while the others get no mist except from the weather.

"We know mist frequency is declining here. They're probably not adapted to increasing periods of dessication, of dryness," says Masters. "I hate to say with certainty what the outcomes will be, so that's why I'm running the experiments."

But Masters says her results so far show in today's weather, some of her wild orchids -- and by implication thousands of other plant species here -- are stressed.

From around the world, scientists now report mammals, mollusks, grasses, trees are being disrupted in ways they would expect from global warming. Species are either trying for cooler ground or losing weight or thinning out -- and in effect throwing natural schedules out of sync.

Despair and Hope

The scientists are not telling us that the world is coming to an end, but that there will be change and increasing uncertainty about just exactly what that change is going to be. So what the scientists are telling us is that we've got to get ready, to adapt and to try to help all of life adapt.

But how could we even think about a problem so big? What do the scientists think and feel about what they have discovered? How do they live daily with the knowledge about what the rising temperature is doing to life on Earth?

"I see sometimes biologists that have been working at a site for a very long time and toward the end of their experiences, they become somewhat jaded, they become saddened, because they feel there's been this inevitable degradation of the forest or the species that they've come to know and love," says Chris Raxworthy.

"The Biosphere. That's the totality of life on the face of the Earth. It's a razor-thin membrane of living organisms," says Wilson. "That's our bubble, we live in that. Have we got any big risk in it? We got a lot of risk in it!"

"It's an urgent situation, but it's not a situation that should paralyze people with fear or with inaction," says Masters. "I am very optimistic that we will adjust. There's such an amazing groundswell, such an amazing movement by people around the world."

"If we continue business as usual, yes, I think life as we know it is going to change drastically," says Parmesan. "And we're going to have massive extinctions."

"This is a challenge that's one of the most daunting before humanity now," says Wilson. "It is also a magnificent challenge, that I think that people understand that they would want to be part of it."

The biologists are telling us if the average global temperature keeps going up it's not a question of if -- but how many -- more species will be lost.

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395. auburn (Mod) 18:07 GMT le 25 janvier 2007    
cold fusion..LOL..any one remember that a few years ago?..that was a cover up for sure
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396. weatherboykris 18:21 GMT le 25 janvier 2007    
Climate change through history has always led to mass extinction.It's nothing new.
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397. grimmdogg23 18:50 GMT le 25 janvier 2007    
very true weatherboykris. also, there has been many new discoveries in new species in the recent years.
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398. weatherboykris 18:56 GMT le 25 janvier 2007    
hi grimm
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399. weatherboykris 19:01 GMT le 25 janvier 2007    
Just released!Link
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400. weatherboykris 19:05 GMT le 25 janvier 2007    
Nice report,but they couldn't they have had someone check for typos?
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