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Grading NHC's Tropical Weather Outlook
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 16:33 GMT le 06 juin 2007 +4
The National Hurricane Center's Tropical Weather Outlook (TWO) is a text-only product that rates the potential of disturbed areas of weather to turn into tropical depressions or tropical storms. The outlooks are issued four times daily, at 5am, 11am, 5pm, and 11pm EDT. I've found them to be an excellent guide to what to watch out for. But how accurate are these outlooks? To find out, Jamie Rhome and Dan Brown, who are two of the hurricane specialists that write the Tropical Weather Outlook, verified the accuracy of all the outlooks issued in 2005 and 2006. They used a three-tiered classification of threat based on the following language appearing in the TWO:

High: "A tropical depression could form tonight or the next day."

Medium: "Some slow development is possible."

Low: "Tropical storm formation is not expected."


These forecasts were then graded by looking at the "best track" database of Atlantic hurricanes and seeing if a tropical depression formed within 48 hours of each TWO issued. The results, shown below, reveal that for the Atlantic in the years 2005 and 2006:

-When the TWO said, "A tropical depression could form tonight of the next day," a depression formed within 48 hours 53% of the time.

-When the TWO said, "Some slow development is possible," a tropical depression formed within 48 hours about 20% of the time.

-When the TWO said, "Tropical storm formation is not expected," a tropical depression formed within 48 hours only 3% of the time.




Figure 1. Verification of the Atlantic and Eastern Pacific Tropical Weather Outlooks issued in 2005 and 2006. Image credit: Jamie Rhome and Dan Brown, National Hurricane Center.

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2151. IKE 11:55 GMT le 11 juin 2007    
Not really and good morning.
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2152. Patrap 11:57 GMT le 11 juin 2007    
93 L ,no convection this am...Link
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2153. weathersp 12:03 GMT le 11 juin 2007    
I think it's pretty dead to me... Image 1hr ago.

Image
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2154. nash28 12:17 GMT le 11 juin 2007    
Good morning all. 93L is history. Carribean looks to be brewing this morning. All falls in line for what to expect this time of year. Something tells me that come late July/early August, we may have a conveyor belt of storms coming off of the coast of Africa.
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2155. CrucianCrip 12:23 GMT le 11 juin 2007    
Greetings, All...

Am a bit surprised to se how long it's been since Dr. Masters has done an update. Dos anyone know if he's away, or just isn't there that much on which to comment so early in the season?

Would be happy if it's the latter...as a Virgin Islander, I don't share your excitement about things brewing or perking up in the Caribbean...
2156. Fl30258713 12:25 GMT le 11 juin 2007    
SAL has really spread south in the East Atl

Saharan Air Layer

http://cimss.ssec.wisc.edu/tropic/real-time/wavetrak/sal.html
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2157. nash28 12:26 GMT le 11 juin 2007    
Dr. Masters is on vacation with his family.
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2158. chessrascal 12:29 GMT le 11 juin 2007    
that blob in the Carribean is going to be something to watch. That is near the spot where Barry formed.
2159. CrucianCrip 12:31 GMT le 11 juin 2007    
Thanks, nash...
2160. nash28 12:32 GMT le 11 juin 2007    
Yeah... The Carribean blob could be our next invest.
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2161. IKE 12:33 GMT le 11 juin 2007    
Posted By: chessrascal at 7:29 AM CDT on June 11, 2007.
that blob in the Carribean is going to be something to watch. That is near the spot where Barry formed.


You're right...it is...

The GFS takes it into the central GOM by this weekend.
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2162. Fl30258713 12:35 GMT le 11 juin 2007    
Chart are showing a 1011 Low in the North Central GOM, I don't see it.

This little bit coming of the Yucatan Pennisula looks interesting on Satelite loop.

GOM

Loop http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/east/gmex/loop-avn.html
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2163. IKE 12:36 GMT le 11 juin 2007    
Latest GFS....

Link
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2164. IKE 12:40 GMT le 11 juin 2007    
Posted By: Fl30258713 at 7:35 AM CDT on June 11, 2007.
Chart are showing a 1011 Low in the North Central GOM, I don't see it.


Maybe it's a heat low...like they get in the desert SW. Temps have been near 100 for the last 3-4 days here in the inland Florida panhandle.
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2165. Fl30258713 12:40 GMT le 11 juin 2007    
Looks like that GFS model will end the drought problem around Florida south of Georgia and South Georgia
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2166. Fl30258713 12:43 GMT le 11 juin 2007    
I'm in Pensacola, it did seem a bit warm yesterday.
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2167. IKE 12:44 GMT le 11 juin 2007    
I'm in Defuniak Springs. It's been around 100 each afternoon since about Friday.
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2168. Fl30258713 12:46 GMT le 11 juin 2007    
None of the bouy's in the area reflect low pressure
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2169. seminolesfan 12:46 GMT le 11 juin 2007    
Posted By: Fl30258713 at 12:25 PM GMT on June 11, 2007.
SAL has really spread south in the East Atl


Actually, if ya look at the scale/legend at the bottom of yer pic; the yellow represents the weakest the SAL can be while still being analyzed on that map.

So actually, the SAL is diluted across the entire E. Atl. Meaning it's not nearly as much of an inhibiting factor as in 06.
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2170. seminolesfan 12:47 GMT le 11 juin 2007    
Sorry...where are my manners?



Morning Everyone!!!
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2171. Fl30258713 12:48 GMT le 11 juin 2007    
seminolesfan, true, but it is considerably more SAL than last week.

Everything coming off Africa now has to punch trough that dry air. 93L didn't have to.
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2172. seminolesfan 12:50 GMT le 11 juin 2007    
FL302-I'm not trying to be argumentative...sorry if I came off as preachy. :(

Just trying to let ya know that dust is just a real light layer, unlike last yrs thick blanket.
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2173. Fl30258713 12:52 GMT le 11 juin 2007    
ok, it is thick enough to effect SST's
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2174. Fl30258713 12:56 GMT le 11 juin 2007    
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2175. emagirl 12:58 GMT le 11 juin 2007    
good morning everyone...well i see i missed alot this weekend...it seems it might be a busy week..
2176. Fl30258713 13:07 GMT le 11 juin 2007    
I hadn't thought about in a while, are there still a bunch of folks that come in here with dial up connection, where images end up taking for ever too load?
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2177. seminolesfan 13:08 GMT le 11 juin 2007    
The remarkable fact, and the generator of so much met interest in 93L was the intensity and presence of dual low pressure centers, identifiable by ground stations, before it even left the coast of Africa. The winds flowing into these low pressure areas pulled additional dust from the upper continent into and behind the wave that was tagged as invest 93L. It therefore stands to reason that this dust will follow the wave as it moves into the East Atl.

In the EUMETSAT pic you posted you can see the intensity of dry air/dust is more intense near 93L and towards the next wave leaving the coast now. After the wave still over the continental center, a marked difference is noted in the dry air presence.

I'm sorry to disagree w/ your opinion, but IMHO the dust will continue to not be at the forefront of inhibiting factors for CV storms.
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2178. Fl30258713 13:16 GMT le 11 juin 2007    
It will interesting to watch too see if it follows that wave.

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2179. kmanislander 13:20 GMT le 11 juin 2007    
New QS pass. No surface low in the NW Caribbean at this time but there are some very strong winds
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2180. stoormfury 13:37 GMT le 11 juin 2007    
good morning to all.

the western caribbean is really unsettled at the moment. the ULL although showing signs OF WEAKENING IS STILL ENHANCING THE TROPICAL WAVE IN THE REGION. THE AREA WILLHAVE DIFFICULTY IN ORGANISATION because of high wind shear.
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2181. emagirl 13:37 GMT le 11 juin 2007    
so any guesses on when the next storm may form??
2182. IKE 13:38 GMT le 11 juin 2007    
NEW BLOG!
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2183. Patrap 17:25 GMT le 11 juin 2007    
Meteosat-8 Split window with SAL...Link
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2184. HCW 20:18 GMT le 12 juin 2007    
Latest GFS . Still looks good for a TS this week :)

Link
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