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Congressional NHC hearing tomorrow; Hawaii eyes Cosme
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 14:38 GMT le 18 juillet 2007 +3
There are no areas of interest to talk about in the tropical Atlantic today, and none of the reliable computer models are forecasting tropical storm formation during the coming week. We will need to watch the waters off the Carolina coast on Saturday, when a cold front is expected to push off the coast. The tail end of this front could serve as the focus for development of a tropical disturbance.

Hawaii eyes Cosme
Residents of the Hawaiian Islands need to keep an eye on Tropical Storm Cosme, which is headed towards the islands and may impact their weather by Saturday. Cosme is a not-too-impressive 40 mph tropical storm now, thanks to 15 knots of wind shear and ocean temperatures about 25 degrees C. However, satellite imagery of the storm shows that it is maintaining a solid amount of heavy thunderstorm activity despite the wind shear and cool SSTs. I expect Cosme will be a tropical depression or weak tropical storm on Saturday when it passes close to the Hawaiian Islands, since SSTs are expected to increase and wind shear should decrease over the storm on Friday.


Figure 1. Sea Surface temperatures beneath Cosme were about 25 C (78 F), just below the 26 C threshold favorable for tropical cyclones. Cosme will be traversing a region of 24-25 C SSTs through Friday, then SSTs will warm to 25-26 as it reaches the Hawaiian Islands on Saturday.

Congressional hearing on the National Hurricane Center
On Thursday, July 19, from 10am until 12pm EDT, the House Committee on Science and Technology is holding a hearing called, "Tracking the Storm at the National Hurricane Center". You can check out some of the press releases and listen to a webcast of the hearing at the Committee web site. The Miami Herald, Orlando Sentinel, and Houston Chronicle have interesting stories on the upcoming hearing. The list of people testifying include Bill Proenza; QuikSCAT expert Dr. Robert Atlas; an emergency management official from the Gulf Coast states; and the head of NOAA, Admiral Lautenbacher. There may be others testifying, including Dr. Jim Turner, deputy director of the federal agency NTIS (National Technical Information Service), who led the inspection team that showed up at NHC without notice on July 2. Dr. Turner's report was scheduled to be completed this Friday, July 20, but is now scheduled to be released to the Congressional panel tomorrow. Notably absent from the list of people called to testify thus far: anyone from the National Hurricane Center, and a QuikSCAT science expert besides Dr. Atlas, who has thus far not addressed in his public comments--that I have seen--the very high uncertainties surrounding the impact of QuikSCAT data on track forecasts of landfalling hurricanes. I'll be sure to present a full analysis of the science presented--and the science left unsaid.

Jeff Masters
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651. charley04survivor 01:38 GMT le 19 juillet 2007    
I wish I could find the archives to that IKE...apparently 2004 was deleted?
652. IKE 01:39 GMT le 19 juillet 2007    
Posted By: hurricane23 at 8:35 PM CDT on July 18, 2007.
Just a few weeks now before things ramp up...


Yup...and that frame is at 300 hours...July 31st.
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653. charley04survivor 01:39 GMT le 19 juillet 2007    
Yes I lost everything in Punta Gorda, as many others did too.
654. IKE 01:39 GMT le 19 juillet 2007    
Did they have blogs on here in 2004?
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655. charley04survivor 01:40 GMT le 19 juillet 2007    
Great, I fly into Miami on July 31st then go to Dallas! I hope nothing comes while I'm gone.
656. charley04survivor 01:40 GMT le 19 juillet 2007    
I don't think they did IKE, not from what I can tell.
658. Patrap 01:42 GMT le 19 juillet 2007    
This imagery was acquired by the NOAA Remote Sensing Division to support NOAA national security and emergency response requirements. In addition, it will be used for ongoing research efforts for testing and developing standards for airborne digital imagery.

NOTE: The date of the photography can be derived from the first 3 characters of the image name. Image names beginning with 243 were acquired Aug 30, 2005, those beginning with 244 were acquired Aug 31, and so on.


Link
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659. Tazmanian 01:42 GMT le 19 juillet 2007    
next week is the last full week of july
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660. hurricane23 01:43 GMT le 19 juillet 2007    
Posted By: IKE at 9:39 PM EDT on July 18, 2007.

Posted By: hurricane23 at 8:35 PM CDT on July 18, 2007.
Just a few weeks now before things ramp up...

Yup...and that frame is at 300 hours...July 31st.

What iam looking at is the more aggressive runs by the GFS meaning stronger areas of low pressure making it all the way across which to me could be a sign of a ramp up in the next 2-3 weeks.
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661. stoormfury 01:43 GMT le 19 juillet 2007    
ALT wave looks a little better and is movimg wnw. i expect convection to increase as it gets closer to the islands .shear is low and the SST is high/
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662. IKE 01:45 GMT le 19 juillet 2007    
"What iam looking at is the more agressive runs by the GFS meaning stronger areas of low pressure making it all the way across which to me could be a sign of a ramp up in the next 2-3 weeks."....

That's what I was getting at...the ramp up is rapidly approaching.
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663. FormerFloridian 01:47 GMT le 19 juillet 2007    
Posted By: charley04survivor at 1:33 AM GMT on July 19, 2007.
SWFL I agree with you, nobody remembers Punta Gorda which was all but destroyed.


I remember because I went up there to help cleanup when I was living in Cape Coral.
665. charley04survivor 01:48 GMT le 19 juillet 2007    
Why didn't Charley have a big storm surge?
666. SWFL 01:48 GMT le 19 juillet 2007    
Storm W.
What area of Fort Myers did your folks live?

Then you know the feeling you had when you saw "those pretzels" and a lot more. It was days before they could get enough water,ice and food to many people.Electric took weeks. I worked up in Port Charlotte for 3 long,hot days with my job from FM because our work building in PC was destroyed. Thank you for understanding.
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670. FormerFloridian 01:52 GMT le 19 juillet 2007    
Posted By: charley04survivor at 1:48 AM GMT on July 19, 2007.
Why didn't Charley have a big storm surge?


combination of its forward speed increased and it's eye had shrunk considerably giving it a smaller core of strong wind.
672. charley04survivor 01:53 GMT le 19 juillet 2007    
Yes I remember being lost in Punta Gorda...couldnt even tell what street I was on.
675. charley04survivor 01:55 GMT le 19 juillet 2007    
Thanks for the info. I didn't realize that would affect the surge of a storm.
676. hurricane23 01:56 GMT le 19 juillet 2007    
I have a couple of friends that were in the eye of hurricane charley during its landfall in punta gorda...Incredible footage.

Here a pic i took with some software as the eye was coming ashore.

eye
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677. charley04survivor 01:58 GMT le 19 juillet 2007    
I was too afraid to take any pictures during Charley. We tried to look for shelter after our house blew away but the back half came up so fast we didn't get a chance.
678. moonlightcowboy 01:58 GMT le 19 juillet 2007    
Later, StormW...have a good sleep.

Really enjoyed your posts today!
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679. FormerFloridian 02:00 GMT le 19 juillet 2007    
Posted By: charley04survivor at 1:55 AM GMT on July 19, 2007.
Thanks for the info. I didn't realize that would affect the surge of a storm.


I was expecting 18 ft storm surge and my house was only 10 ft above sea level, so you can imagine my worry at the time. Thankfully, just minor street flooding but a lot of wind damage.
680. Caymanite 02:01 GMT le 19 juillet 2007    
Looks like the wave at 10N 50W has become more symetrical and cloud tops have cooled considerably in the past 2 hrs. Will be real interesting to see if it can get to 11 or 12N before 60W. If it does I believe that we wil truly have something to watch. Then again it might be gone by tomorrow, will have to wait & see.
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681. moonlightcowboy 02:02 GMT le 19 juillet 2007    
Posted By: charley04survivor at 1:55 AM GMT on July 19, 2007.
Thanks for the info. I didn't realize that would affect the surge of a storm.


Charley, several things go into play for surge.

To name a few: size of storm, overall windfield, strength of storm, wind speeds, storm speed, storm direction, storm landfall angle, tides, sea levels, ocean floor - shallow/deep waters...just these off the top of my head...and I'm sure there's more.
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682. SWFL 02:02 GMT le 19 juillet 2007    
Former Floridian. I am sure all the hot hard work you put into helping to clean up was much appreciated. Where did you move to?
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683. charley04survivor 02:03 GMT le 19 juillet 2007    
If there was a storm surge with Charley, we would've died no doubt as our house looked over the harbor.
684. FormerFloridian 02:03 GMT le 19 juillet 2007    
Good luck to all in the Midwest tonight. Looks like a rough night.

Later.
685. hurricane23 02:04 GMT le 19 juillet 2007    
Here is just a small clip caught by some friends in the core of hurricane charley.

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686. charley04survivor 02:05 GMT le 19 juillet 2007    
hurricane23...I have that video. Someone gave it to me as a gift. Its hard to watch your town being torn apart.
687. scwindsaloft 02:06 GMT le 19 juillet 2007    
23

It is probably me, but I see no image on your post. Do I need some kind of software upgrade?
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688. FormerFloridian 02:06 GMT le 19 juillet 2007    
Posted By: SWFL at 2:02 AM GMT on July 19, 2007.
Former Floridian. I am sure all the hot hard work you put into helping to clean up was much appreciated. Where did you move to?


Ohio. Couldn't afford to keep paying the rising homeowners insurance costs in Florida. My mortgage went up nearly $800/mo. over a two year period as a result. Sold my house and got out for before the housing bust.
689. charley04survivor 02:07 GMT le 19 juillet 2007    
I am ready to get out. We moved to Riverview, FL just a few miles east of Tampa. Just couldn't go back to Punta Gorda.
690. moonlightcowboy 02:10 GMT le 19 juillet 2007    
...somehow, the next post seems like it should belong to Patrap!

I think we know several that can relate Charley.
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691. hurricane23 02:11 GMT le 19 juillet 2007    
Yea 2004 was really tuff for florida period...Hopefully we wont see a year like that for a long time.For us in florida we should atleast expect a couple of threats before its all said and done this season.
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692. floridafisherman 02:11 GMT le 19 juillet 2007    
hi! i live in lehigh acres, east of ft myers and remember charlie well. the damage it caused not just near the coast, but inland in places like arcadia and orlando got hit hard too.

as for hurricanes, wilma was actually alot worse in my area. i was closer to charlies eye, but charlie was a small storm. wilma has a huge eye and much broader windfield. wilma was actually snapping palm trees in my area. when u see the palm trees snapping, you know its bad out there.
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693. clwstmchasr 02:14 GMT le 19 juillet 2007    
Watched Steve Lyons on TWC about 20min ago. He did not even show a satellite of the Atlantic. He said that there was "absolutely nothing" going on in the Atlantic.
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694. charley04survivor 02:15 GMT le 19 juillet 2007    
What makes some storms form to be larger and some to be smaller?
698. sporteguy03 02:21 GMT le 19 juillet 2007    
Hey JP,
Tom Terry mentioned me on WDRQ Eye on the Tropics
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700. sporteguy03 02:23 GMT le 19 juillet 2007    
He said it will probably run into Venzelua, but great he mentioned my email right JP , lol
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