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Gulf of Mexico low nears tropical depression status
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 13:41 GMT le 21 septembre 2007 +2
A large low pressure system (93L) over the Gulf of Mexico has gradually been acquiring tropical characteristics, but is in no hurry to intensify. Top surface winds measured at buoys in the Gulf of Mexico this morning have been 30 knots (35 mph), so this storm could technically qualify as a tropical depression if the current hurricane hunter mission finds a well-defined center of circulation. There are two Hurricane Hunters aircraft in the storm right now, and they have found several swaths of surface winds of 35 mph. Long range radar loops from the Florida Panhandle clearly show the storm's circulation, but the low level spiral bands are not well organized and are only slowly getting more organized. Satellite loops show a large, sloppy-looking storm. Storms that start off as large, non-tropical systems like 93L typically take several days to organize and become fully tropical, and 93L will not have time to become anything worse than a minimal tropical storm. The storm is capable of dumping some heavy rains along its path--radar estimated precipitation from the Tallahassee radar (Figure 1) were as high as three inches. As 93L becomes more tropical in nature, it will be able to generate higher rain amounts. But, with the storm expected to move inland by Saturday afternoon, it does not appear 93L has time to generate the kind of tropical rains that would make it a serious flood threat.


Figure 1. Estimated rainfall from the Tallahassee, Florida radar.

Elsewhere in the tropics
An area of disturbed weather has developed in the western Caribbean between the Yucatan Peninsula and Jamaica, in association with a surface trough of low pressure. This disturbance will bring heavy rains to Cozumel and Cancun on Saturday as it crosses the Yucatan Peninsula. The region will need to be watched for development on Sunday as it crosses the Gulf of Mexico. The NOGAPS and GFS models predict an upper air pattern favorable for formation of a tropical depression over the Gulf of Mexico on Sunday and Monday. Heavy rains from this system may hit Louisiana and/or Texas on Monday.

A non-tropical low pressure system about 1000 miles east of Bermuda is being watched by NHC for tropical development. This low is expected to move northeastwards out to sea 2-4 days from now.


Figure 2. Current visible satellite image showing 93L near the Florida Panhandle (top of image) and the western Caribbean disturbance (bottom right of image).

I'll have an update late this afternoon when the next set of computer models runs are available.

Jeff Masters
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51. catastropheadjuster 14:03 GMT le 21 septembre 2007    
So do you'll think Mobile,Al doesn't have nothing to worry about know? I'd greatly appreciate if someone would let me know.
SJ how ya feeling? Better I hope.
Sheri
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52. StormJunkie 14:03 GMT le 21 septembre 2007    
Stuckey, the NHC has that option on the floater overlays, but not on the regional maps. May find something on the CIMSS site as well, although I could not track it down. Maybe be some sites here that could help.
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53. SomeRandomTexan 14:03 GMT le 21 septembre 2007    
should this carrib blob be anything to watch as far as development into a storm?
I see DR. Masters has mentioned it in his update and says it will be a Texas or LA storm, should i keep a good eye on it?

Thanks for the info
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54. ladyluck276 14:03 GMT le 21 septembre 2007    
HEY GUYS! How do you like my predictions for the 2008 Atlantic hurricane season!!

55. nolesjeff 14:04 GMT le 21 septembre 2007    
Posted By: turnandburn at 1:56 PM GMT on September 21, 2007.

miami 34 a&m 17


As opposed to the weak one that hit oklahoma last week?
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58. Bonedog 14:05 GMT le 21 septembre 2007    
QuickScat site updated missed the storm though :(
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59. NEwxguy 14:05 GMT le 21 septembre 2007    
predictions for the 08 hurricane season??????
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60. ladyluck276 14:05 GMT le 21 septembre 2007    
Link

2008 Atlantic Hurricane Season Predictions!
61. IKE 14:06 GMT le 21 septembre 2007    
From the WU tropical page....


Invest 93
Wind: 35 MPH — Location: 28.7 85.3W — Movement: NNW
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62. StormJunkie 14:06 GMT le 21 septembre 2007    
Yes V2, the GFS and CMC hint at that area moving SE then back to the SW and nearing the GA coast in several days.

Nice try atmo....Never doubt "The 'Ol Ball Coach"
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67. turnandburn 14:07 GMT le 21 septembre 2007    
too far inland i guess, any guess if the nw carrib storm may be an invest today or tmrw?
68. fredwx 14:08 GMT le 21 septembre 2007    
Radar suggests a low center is just south of Apalachicola and Panama City moving NW'rd. Surface obs suggest 1006mb low with max winds 25kts (30mph)and the center may be too close to land for any significant tropical development.

Surface obs

Radar
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70. groundswell 14:08 GMT le 21 septembre 2007    
I live in Ocala-and I can tell you last night was one of the most severe lightning storms I have ever seen. Not to mention the crashed oak that closed CR475 and cut out power for about 5 hours. So just sat out on the lanai, and took it in. Awesome.
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72. ladyluck276 14:09 GMT le 21 septembre 2007    
Thanks for reading anyway JPhurricane : )
73. fireflymom 14:09 GMT le 21 septembre 2007    
The Houston area weather folk seem more interested in the Pacific NW storm than the GOM. My question is how will this affect any systems in the GOM? Can anyone give me an idea of how this may pan out? Thanks in advance for any help.
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75. NEwxguy 14:10 GMT le 21 septembre 2007    
jp,not taking those predictions seriously,someones pulling our leg
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77. StormJunkie 14:10 GMT le 21 septembre 2007    
Sheri, keep an eye on it, but looking pretty good right now....That said, watch the blob in the Carib.
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79. OUSHAWN 14:11 GMT le 21 septembre 2007    
JP,

I think the center was relocated NNW of where it was but I don't believe it is actually moving NNW...I see it moving almost due west.

Shawn
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81. thelmores 14:11 GMT le 21 septembre 2007    
499
NOUS42 KNHC 211400
WEATHER RECONNAISSANCE FLIGHTS
CARCAH, NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER, MIAMI, FL.
1000 AM EDT FRI 21 SEPTEMBER 2007
SUBJECT: TROPICAL CYCLONE PLAN OF THE DAY (TCPOD)
VALID 22/1100Z TO 23/1100Z SEPTEMBER 2007
TCPOD NUMBER.....07-119

I. ATLANTIC REQUIREMENTS
1. SUSPECT AREA
FLIGHT ONE --TEAL 72
A. 22/1500,1800,2100Z
B. AFXXX 0810A CYCLONE
C. 22/1245Z
D. 30.1N 88.6W
E. 22/1400Z TO 22/2100Z
F. SFC TO 10,000 FT

FLIGHT TWO --TEAL 73
A. 23/0000,0300,0600Z
B. AFXXX 0910A CYCLONE
C. 22/2145Z
D. 30.2N 89.0W
E. 22/2330Z TO 23/0600Z
F. SFC TO 10,000 FT

2. SUCCEEDING DAY OUTLOOK.....NEGATIVE.
3. REMARKS: NOAA MAY FLY A RESEARCH MISSION INTO THIS SYSTEM
DEPARTING KMCF AT 22/1300Z. G-IV MISSION FOR 22/0000Z WITH
21/1730Z TAKEOFF CANCELED AT 21/1300Z.
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82. Patrap 14:11 GMT le 21 septembre 2007    
GOES IR Loop of Gulf of Mexico
93L


Link
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83. NEwxguy 14:12 GMT le 21 septembre 2007    
was thinking the same thing bonedog
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84. MrNiceville 14:12 GMT le 21 septembre 2007    
Sorry Bonedog - I'll just shut up and drive...
87. V26R 14:12 GMT le 21 septembre 2007    
catastropheadjuster
Dew Points are up in your area, looks like random Boomers but it will be close depending
which way that LLJ builds
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91. CycloneBoz 14:13 GMT le 21 septembre 2007    
From Dr. Master's currrent blog:

"...93L will not have time to become anything worse than a minimal tropical storm."

And my comment from yesterday:

"93L Is Running Out Of Time"

For some reason, my comment was met with some "LOLs". Okay...
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92. thelmores 14:14 GMT le 21 septembre 2007    
until we get a vortex data message, the actual "center" is apparently debatable....

who you gonna believe.... me or your lyin eyes! LOL
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93. V26R 14:14 GMT le 21 septembre 2007    
What did you say James?
This is first spot I've seen from you
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96. Bonedog 14:15 GMT le 21 septembre 2007    
Posted By: jameskrivan at 10:12 AM EDT on September 21, 2007.

is anyone hearing me...or am i on ignore.....


not on ignore but did not see a question. Repost please :)
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98. sporteguy03 14:15 GMT le 21 septembre 2007    
JP James Krivan
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99. ladyluck276 14:16 GMT le 21 septembre 2007    
93L has gone the way of the other 93L.
100. SomeRandomTexan 14:15 GMT le 21 septembre 2007    
No offense, just wondering what this thing in the Carrib may do.... looks like it may be trying to get a circ.
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