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Bertha moves away from Bermuda, eyes still on Invest 94L
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 11:47 GMT le 15 juillet 2008 +1
Tropical Storm Bertha is once again up near hurricane strength, but is fortunately moving away from Bermuda. While her maximum sustained winds have increased to 70 mph, it is more important to note that her central pressure is also up to 995 mb, indicating a weaker storm.


Bertha - Watches and Warnings

Bertha's satellite signature shows a very large circulation with one main band wrapping around most of the storm. Other than that, Bertha looks like a normal tropical system decaying over the North Atlantic.

Motion continuing to the north and then to the east is expected over the next few days with some more wobbles to be expected on top of the general progression to the east. Short term strengthening is possible, but Bertha will be transitioning to an extratropical system in the long term.

Click for full size model imagery:

Bertha - Track Forecast

Bertha - Wind Speed Forecast

The area of interest heading toward the Lesser Antilles has still yet to organize. Overall conditions remain favorable for Invest 94L but deeper convection is required. Right now the main burst of convection visible on the satellite imagery is located ahead of the easterly wave axis. If the convection can shift a bit to the east then we could see some development. However, in its current position this burst of convection will not lead to development.

The wave will continue to progress to the west over the medium term. The HWRF has backed off developing the system, but the GFDL is still agressive in its solution. All the models are in agreement on a track to the west-northwest across the northern Caribbean.

Click for full size model imagery:

Invest 94L - Track Forecast

Invest 94L - Intensity Forecast

Writing from cheery old London this week, Bryan Woods.
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801. weathersp 20:08 GMT le 15 juillet 2008    
Quoting cchsweatherman:
Figured that I would visually show what I'm observing on Visible satellite imagery. This graphic shows the well-defined circulation and the strong inflow.
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Here comes the paint... Nice Diagram cchs.
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803. weathersp 20:10 GMT le 15 juillet 2008    
Quoting HurricaneGeek:
790. Right now it's embedded within the ITCZ, so until it gets out of there, (if it ever does), then it won't.


Just was gonna say that... Good convection. I can't tell if its trying to get a lower pressure under that cloud cover but the ITCZ is helping the convection so I would say keep a loose eye on it and if it puts itself out of the ITCZ then watch it closely.
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804. BahaHurican 20:13 GMT le 15 juillet 2008    
BTW, did anybody notice this on the 2p.m. TWD?

NEW TROPICAL WAVE IS INTRODUCED OFF THE COAST OF AFRICA ALONG
28W/29W S OF 18N. THE AREA OF CLOUDINESS ASSOCIATED WITH THE
WAVE HAS BEEN TRACKED FOR SEVERAL DAYS NOW AS IT MOVED WWD AND
NOW SHOWS SOME APPARENT CYCLONIC TURNING. SCATTERED MODERATE
CONVECTION IS MOSTLY W OF THE AXIS FROM 3N-9N BETWEEN 28W-35W.

And this paragraph talks about the weather south of PR/DR/Haiti.

TROPICAL WAVE EXTENDS FROM EASTERN DOMINICAN REPUBLIC TILTED
ALONG 70W MOVING W 15 KT. THIS FEATURE REMAINS WELL DEFINED WITH
IR SATELLITE IMAGERY SHOWING INVERTED-V CURVATURE ALONG THE AXIS
IN THE ERN CARIBBEAN. A LARGE AREA OF SCATTERED MODERATE AND
EMBEDDED ISOLATED STRONG CONVECTION IS FROM 13N-17N BETWEEN
67W-74W.



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805. hurricanehanna 20:15 GMT le 15 juillet 2008    
CCH - which system is that a graphic of?
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806. HurricaneKing 20:15 GMT le 15 juillet 2008    
Quoting cchsweatherman:
Figured that I would visually show what I'm observing on Visible satellite imagery. This graphic shows the well-defined circulation and the strong inflow.
Photobucket


I'd have to say thats where the mid to upper level center is. The open low level center looks to be a little to the north and east. Right now it looks horrible. You can see east winds and southwest winds but the other directions dont look like they are there.
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807. HurricaneGeek 20:15 GMT le 15 juillet 2008    
I agree with you weathersp and I agree with myself, too. LOL

Shear is ok, I guess, but it could be better out ahead of it.
I'd say by Thursday we'll know yes or no, sound reasonable? Personally, I doubt anything will come of it but I don't doubt that I could be wrong =) .
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808. presslord 20:15 GMT le 15 juillet 2008    
cchs...793...THAT"S what I'm talkin' 'bout!!!! Thanks!!
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809. WeatherfanPR 20:16 GMT le 15 juillet 2008    
Owned and maintained by National Data Buoy Center
6-meter NOMAD buoy
ARES payload
14.48 N 53.03 W (14°28'49" N 53°2'19" W)


Conditions at 41040 as of
1850 GMT on 07/15/2008:

Wind Direction (WDIR): ENE ( 70 deg true )

Wind Speed (WSPD): 17.5 kts

Wind Gust (GST): 21.4 kts

Atmospheric Pressure (PRES): 29.95 in

Pressure Tendency (PTDY): -0.03 in ( Falling )
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810. OSUWXGUY 20:17 GMT le 15 juillet 2008    
793. cchsweatherman 8:02 PM GMT on July 15, 2008

Note your placement of the low.

The western edge of that convection is largely driven by a large outflow boundary.

This western convection will die off shortly...then 94L will look weak...and then we'll do the reorganization all over again..because like you note...there is strong inflow and cyclonic turning with 94L.

I think the next reorganization might stick and develop, as the DMax and warmer water might finally moisten the atmosphere enough to stop this outflow degradation.
811. HurricaneGeek 20:19 GMT le 15 juillet 2008    
806. I see that there is a spin, like you said to the NE of where he has the L. I agree, wether its open or closed, I don't know. To me, it looks like the spin is pretty good itself, just lacking convection.
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812. BahaHurican 20:20 GMT le 15 juillet 2008    
Well, I read somewhere today that only about 10% of the waves that come off Africa actually generate TS or hurricanes in the ATL. (There's still some controversy about the % of waves in the EPac that trigger cyclones. That's definitely a topic for study.) Anyway, if 94L doesn't make it, it wouldn't be that unusual or surprising, would it? LOL
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813. Michfan 20:22 GMT le 15 juillet 2008    
94L as usual is clinging to life today.
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814. mississippiwx23 20:22 GMT le 15 juillet 2008    
I can see that surface spin to the NE as well, but I also think its elongated from SW to NE. It doesn't look tight at the surface. The WV image really shows how none of this convection is getting rooted. If it goes though, things could happen. Definitely not dead, but definitely not in good condition either.
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815. cchsweatherman 20:22 GMT le 15 juillet 2008    
Keep in mind that I did that illustration in Paint and its hard to control everything on the program. Its a rough sketch, so my placement of the L may not be accurate, but its somewhere in the vicinity where I placed the L.
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817. BahaHurican 20:23 GMT le 15 juillet 2008    
Isn't that tilted low-mid centre what h23 was talking about earlier?
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818. weathersp 20:24 GMT le 15 juillet 2008    
Microwave Image 94L: Maybe Half of a swirl?




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819. WeatherfanPR 20:24 GMT le 15 juillet 2008    
I have to say. 94L looks better today than yesterday at this hour.
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820. Wariac 20:24 GMT le 15 juillet 2008    
what about the area right under DR. anything developing there?
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821. helove2trac 20:25 GMT le 15 juillet 2008    
what will it actually take for 94L to really get going
822. RitaEvac 20:25 GMT le 15 juillet 2008    
Waters ahead for 94L...


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823. KYhomeboy 20:26 GMT le 15 juillet 2008    
OSU....94L is taping into the moisture along the south american coast and has many inflow passages. One section of convection might subside but its likely that flare up will continue all over the place
824. Tazmanian 20:27 GMT le 15 juillet 2008    
this is NOT a wind shear map this is Shear Tendency it shows you how march the wind shear went up or down it is NOT a wind shear map




now this IS a wind shear map





and WOW look at the wind shear in the northern Caribbean and Caribbean it has drop big time it now down to 10 to 20kt where this AM it was 30kt to 40kt all so wind shear is now 5kt where 94L is goig
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825. BahaHurican 20:29 GMT le 15 juillet 2008    
Quoting Wariac:
what about the area right under DR. anything developing there?


See post # 804.
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826. DocBen 20:30 GMT le 15 juillet 2008    
Seems like both 94 and 'Carib-Blob' keep hanging in there but not really doing anything. Comments? Expect anything tonight to DMax?
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827. Wariac 20:31 GMT le 15 juillet 2008    
thanks Baha
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828. hurricanehanna 20:31 GMT le 15 juillet 2008    
Yikes Taz. So wind shear is decreaing where 94L is going. Not good, not good at all.
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829. mississippiwx23 20:31 GMT le 15 juillet 2008    
Lets get some more opinions on this, here is mine:

As for the GOM, it looks to me like the logical location for a mid level low would be just south of Mobile, AL in the kink shown in water vapor imagery. What do you all think? Am I not seeing this correctly?
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830. helove2trac 20:32 GMT le 15 juillet 2008    
94L will not die it is a true fighter it will fool all of us gom get ready because it is coming
831. WeatherfanPR 20:32 GMT le 15 juillet 2008    
I think 94L knows that there is not much time for developing so it's in a hurry to organize itself.
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833. cchsweatherman 20:32 GMT le 15 juillet 2008    
For anyone interested, here is Accuweather's graphic on Invest 94.
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834. MrSea 20:35 GMT le 15 juillet 2008    
cchs thats a really hopeful diagram, the winds are not nearly that cyclonic
835. SFLGirl 20:35 GMT le 15 juillet 2008    
cchs- can you post the graphic? Thanks
836. reedzone 20:37 GMT le 15 juillet 2008    
It appears that a nice anticyclone has formed with the disturbance on the GOM, that could give us a clue about development. 94L will have one last chance to prove the models wrong. This system reminds me soo much of a certain storm last year, became one of the strongest storm in the Atlantic but models had nothing!
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837. Tazmanian 20:39 GMT le 15 juillet 2008    
and if you all think 94L will be runing in to a wall of shear by time it got to the Caribbean well the wind shear is no longer high
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838. Nolehead 20:44 GMT le 15 juillet 2008    
wow!!! is that a tiny low just south of mobile bay??
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839. Tazmanian 20:50 GMT le 15 juillet 2008    
by the way is any one geting this evere time some one hits some in??? and where is there a red X on evere thing ???


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840. Wariac 20:59 GMT le 15 juillet 2008    
is the blog ok or everyone just left suddenly?
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841. KEEPEROFTHEGATE (Mod) 21:00 GMT le 15 juillet 2008    
out eating crow
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842. all4hurricanes 21:01 GMT le 15 juillet 2008    
I,m here and skeptical
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843. TerraNova 21:02 GMT le 15 juillet 2008    
Afternoon everyone!

No major changes have occurred with 94L during the course of the afternoon but the few minor changes within the internal structure/satellite presentation of the system indicate that this system is still trying to develop further. Looping satellite animations reveals what appears to be a new circulation center under the current convective mass. Looking at visible imagery (Link) the center of circulation (there is no evidence to confirm how deep the circulation has grown) is somewhere near 13N, 51W. If you look closely just to the north of these coordinates you can make out what appears to be low level cloud cover arching southward. Convection isn't very cold and 94L is still struggling to maintain higher cloud tops. The highest convection is located in a very small cluster north of the "COC". A QS pass would be very nice right about now. Also notice what appears to be a thunderstorm outflow boundary on visible loops radiating outwards from the new convective mass; indicating that 94L is still interacting with dry air and the stable air mass is what has been preventing significant low level convergence from taking place.

Shear is high north of the system but does not appear to be significantly affecting the development of what convection there is. Shear is dropping in the Caribbean as expected.

Remember that we are currently in D-min...most weak systems rely on the diurnal process in their developing stages and we'll see convection wane and redevelop over time. Question is, how much convection develops and how much does that convection warm? More convection with cloutops remaining cooler for longer would indicate a growing system, and we're not seeing that now.

Long story short; in my opinion, 94L hasn’t given up yet and still needs to be monitored, in addition to the wave behind it and the stalled trough over the NE Gulf. It's not over until the invest has degenerated into a bare swirl with extremely displaced convection; remember tha 94L has just barely become detached from the ITCZ. Luckily any development with this system will occur very slowly.

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844. pablolopez26 21:04 GMT le 15 juillet 2008    
Interesting to note that Bertha is now the longest-lived July tropical storm in history.
845. Tazmanian 21:06 GMT le 15 juillet 2008    
take a look at this

Link
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846. TerraNova 21:08 GMT le 15 juillet 2008    
845. Tazmanian 4:06 PM EST on July 15, 2008

I think that's the wrong link. You linked to the WU main page.
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847. all4hurricanes 21:18 GMT le 15 juillet 2008    
This is a story about the little invest that could once there was a little invest that had a mean father named ITCZ. One day the invest got annoyed with his father and left. He was roaming the waters when out popped the evil Dusty Dry. The invest, having nowhere else to go went into Dusty, murmuring "I think I can. I think I can." and The invest emerged from Dusty with the new name of TD3. But as TD3 passed into the Caribbean the evil Dr.Shear came out. The Dr swiped at TD3's west side. TD3 murmured to himself "I think I can. I think I can." when a huge rock fell on Dr.Shear. Then TD3 became Cristobal when out came evil Cuba. Cuba weakened Cristobal's inner core but all the while Cristobal was saying "I think I can. I think I can." and got away from Cuba. Ocean free he became the biggest baddest storm ever to effect the east coast. Cristobal was so strong he even blew over the third little piggies house.


Nice Fairy tale isn't it.
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848. bluehaze27 21:19 GMT le 15 juillet 2008    
Here is an interesting article regarding the length of hurricane season and global warming Landsea's and Gray's supected political take notwithstanding.

Link
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849. all4hurricanes 21:33 GMT le 15 juillet 2008    
Where is everyone?
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850. TerraNova 21:35 GMT le 15 juillet 2008    
849. all4hurricanes 4:33 PM EST on July 15, 2008
Where is everyone?


Some people are having problems accessing the site.
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851. bluehaze27 21:38 GMT le 15 juillet 2008    
I had problems accessing WU for about 15 minutes.
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