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TOP TEN TEA PARTY LIES
Posted by: SayNoToTea, 14:19 GMT le 03 septembre 2011 +6
10 fictitious Tea Party beliefs
By John Amato and David Neiwert

We’ll admit up-front that the title of our forthcoming book,“Over the Cliff: How Obama’s Election Drove the American Right Insane,” indulges in some rhetorical imprecision: conservatives in the United States are of course not really insane in any clinical or legal sense, and we are not suggesting they undergo sanity hearings to determine if their rights should be suspended. We mean “insane” in the common-sense meaning of the word -- having taken leave of their senses.

What other word, after all, can properly describe the behavior of people who adamantly insist on believing things that are provably untrue? Einstein facetiously defined insanity as doing the same thing repeatedly and expecting different results. Defiantly clinging to exploded fantasies and thoroughly debunked false “facts,” even when evidence of their falsity is planted directly in front of them, is a kind of insanity too.

The numbers of things that the American Right -- embodied in its wildly popular new “grassroots” Tea Party movement – believes but that are provably untrue is actually a pretty long list. But we’ve put together the Top 10, listed by importance in their increasingly Planet Bizarro-like worldview:

1. The birth-certificate conspiracy. Reality: Not even official birth certificates from Hawaii, newspaper clippings from 1961, and the testimony of state officials will convince the true-blue Tea Partiers. Which is why WorldNetDaily’s Joseph Farah lectured the National Tea Party Convention for an hour about the “truth” of the birth-certificate story.

2. Death panels. Reality: PolitiFact named Sarah Palin’s Facebook invention its “Lie of the Year,” and the belief was thoroughly exposed as a falsehood by every news network (even Fox). Yet Palin still insists that the panels exist somewhere in the health-care reform bill that was signed into law, its actual language notwithstanding.

3. Obama is a Muslim/Socialist/Fascist. Glenn Beck’s fantasy of the week -- one week Obama was a Socialist, the next he was a Communist, then a Fascist. Then it was on to Marxism and Maoism -- was avidly adopted by sign-bearing fans at Tea Party gatherings, who sometimes shared Beck’s confusion by just calling Obama All of the Above. Reality: Give us a break. Obama’s self-evident cautious centrism, embodied by his health-care reform package stripped of a public option, as well as his more recent embrace of a limited offshore drilling program, has infuriated liberals in his party -- but it hasn’t stopped Tea Partiers from denouncing the president as a radical anyway.

4. Obama is going to take away our guns. Well, the NRA managed to scare a whole lot of people into buying up every gun and piece of ammunition in sight the first year or so after Obama’s election. And at least five police officers died because the suspects they were arresting feared Obama was going to take away their guns. But Obama not only has adhered to his promise not to address gun-control issues, there hasn’t been even a breath of it from his administration. Which, of course, just makes the paranoids that much more paranoid: It’s proof that he’s really up to something.

5. Obama is raising our taxes. Reality: Obama lowered taxes for 95 percent of working Americans in his first year in office. But, you know, he’s a liberal Democrat – and for true-blue right-wing folks, that ALWAYS means a tax hike.

6. Fascism is a left-wing phenomenon. We can thank Jonah Goldberg -- with a big assist from Beck -- for the popularity of this one, even though Goldberg’s thesis has been demolished and angrily dismissed by academic historians. It’s especially come in handy for Tea Partiers with Obama-as-Hitler signs, who are not impressed by those pointy-headed professorial types anyway.

7. Global warming is a hoax. So Sean Hannity assures us, citing the Climategate brouhaha -- which was itself shown largely to be a hoax of its own. Meanwhile, the world’s ocean levels keep rising, and glaciers and the polar ice cap keep receding -- regardless of the endless words thrown up denying that they are.

8. Some 16,000 new IRS agents will enforce the new health care reform act by throwing you in jail. Reality: The IRS is actually only increasing its spending in the coming budget year as it normally would -- but some Republican operatives decided to figure out how many positions its increased budget would buy, and came up with 16,000, a figure that then became gospel on Newt Gingrich’s lips. According to the same mythmakers, this nonexistent new army of health care police was going to start throwing people in jail if they failed to buy health insurance -- though in fact, the only penalties contemplated for such failures are fines and taxes.

9. Two million people were at the 9/12 March on Washington. At the culmination of a monthlong promotion (highlighted by a national Tea Party Express bus tour) by Beck and Fox News, about 70,000 people gathered on the National Mall on September 12 to protest. Beck cited an erroneous early report that over a million had shown up. Later that grew to be two million, the figure now commonly cited by Tea Party leaders as evidence of their tremendous numerical force.

10. The Tea Parties are a non-partisan, broad grassroots movement. Sure, if by non-partisan you mean rabidly paleo-conservative, to the point of even dismissing Republicans, and by grassroots you mean fake populism organized and whipped up by the most popular cable-news network on television, with a heaping helping of corporate financing.
Tea Party folks and their defenders also want to believe that they’re just ordinary Americans who want to be serious about helping their country. But it’s pretty hard to fit that description when you embrace plain old nuttiness.

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1. SayNoToTea 23:59 GMT le 03 septembre 2011    
71% Of Republicans Don’t Want Sarah Palin To Run
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It seems Sarah Palin has worn out her welcome with Republicans. An astounding 71% of GOP voters say they don't want Palin to run for president, according to a new poll by FOX News, with 25% supporting a bid and 4% unsure.

The numbers are brutal for Palin, who was long regarded as a potential frontrunner for the 2012 nomination. Even among Tea Party-identifying Republicans she fares poorly: 68% say she shouldn't run versus only 28% who say she should. The numbers aren't that far off from the general electorate, 74% of whom don't want her to run versus 20% who do. Outside of Tea Partiers, more than 70% of every demographic broken out in the poll's crosstabs -- men, women, white voters, non-white voters, voters with college degrees, voters without college degrees -- are against a Palin run.

As TPM noted this week, there hasn't exactly been a clamor going up among Republicans for a Sarah Palin run while she's tested the waters in recent weeks. Maybe the disastrous box office returns for a movie celebrating her Alaska governorship were an early warning sign.

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2. PSLFLCaneVet 00:48 GMT le 04 septembre 2011    


I applaud bringing these points to light here.

Kudos!
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4. PSLFLCaneVet 02:12 GMT le 04 septembre 2011    


The sad fact of these matters is that the Tea baggers are the minority, Spathy.

They are the radicals.
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5. PSLFLCaneVet 02:13 GMT le 04 septembre 2011    


By the way, we can read your posts just fine without the bold, Friend.

:)
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6. PSLFLCaneVet 02:21 GMT le 04 septembre 2011    


What I find refreshing about this blog, is that no one is discouraged from posting their thoughts, unlike sebastianjer, who only wants to preach to the choir.

Food for thought, tea baggers.

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7. auburn (Mod) 02:21 GMT le 04 septembre 2011    
nice post..
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9. auburn (Mod) 02:35 GMT le 04 septembre 2011    
you think its bad now?wake up..man I remember when my grand father would preach that to everyone he met..that and the one world government..he would say son..when you get grown there will only be Democrats running the USA..I fell sorry for you..but I cant stop it..
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11. auburn (Mod) 02:43 GMT le 04 septembre 2011    
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12. unclemush 02:44 GMT le 04 septembre 2011    
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13. unclemush 02:46 GMT le 04 septembre 2011    
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16. unclemush 03:00 GMT le 04 septembre 2011    
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17. seflagamma 03:02 GMT le 04 septembre 2011    
Yada, Yada, Yada,...


Pres Obama has no idea what he is doing..
and his cabinet has never held a real private sector job in all their lives combined..

neither has the President.. he is a community aggitator...

And was never equiped to hold the office he holds now, nor is his cabinet..
Without speach writers and telepromtors he is lost. He could never do a real "off the cuff" interview or press conference..




just saying...


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21. WeHaveHadIT 03:46 GMT le 04 septembre 2011    
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23. auburn (Mod) 04:02 GMT le 04 septembre 2011    
I have come to the conclusion that it does absolutely no good to post Facts about politics..or to try and argue my point..so from now on I wont even try ..I will post what I think is relevant for info purposes only..you want to write a book on why you disagree..have at it.
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25. WeHaveHadIT 04:08 GMT le 04 septembre 2011    
just reading from wikipedia,

...Obama is a graduate of Columbia University and Harvard Law School, where he was the president of the Harvard Law Review. He was a community organizer in Chicago before earning his law degree. He worked as a civil rights attorney in Chicago and taught constitutional law at the University of Chicago Law School from 1992 to 2004. He served three terms representing the 13th District in the Illinois Senate from 1997 to 2004. [emphasis mine]
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27. auburn (Mod) 04:24 GMT le 04 septembre 2011    
The post I made wasn't just for you..or even to you..it is my outlook on all disagreements over politics on here and elsewhere .
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28. WeHaveHadIT 04:33 GMT le 04 septembre 2011    


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31. oregonbirdofprey 05:12 GMT le 04 septembre 2011    
"You believe that the non Tea Party vision is the MAJORITY?"

Yes, Spathy, we do... and with great confidence. And if you believe that's cause for people like you to be worried, well, you're right. You should be very worried. Things, ultimately, will not go your way. There are too many reasonable, caring people in this country, regardless of their political labels, to let that happen.
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35. unclemush 09:56 GMT le 04 septembre 2011    
Link As the nation gears up for the 2012 presidential election, Republican officials have launched an unprecedented, centrally coordinated campaign to suppress the elements of the Democratic vote that elected Barack Obama in 2008. Just as Dixiecrats once used poll taxes and literacy tests to bar black Southerners from voting, a new crop of GOP governors and state legislators has passed a series of seemingly disconnected measures that could prevent millions of students, minorities, immigrants, ex-convicts and the elderly from casting ballots. "What has happened this year is the most significant setback to voting rights in this country in a century," says Judith Browne-Dianis, who monitors barriers to voting as co-director of the Advancement Project, a civil rights organization based in Washington, D.C.

Republicans have long tried to drive Democratic voters away from the polls. "I don't want everybody to vote," the influential conservative activist Paul Weyrich told a gathering of evangelical leaders in 1980. "As a matter of fact, our leverage in the elections quite candidly goes up as the voting populace goes down." But since the 2010 election, thanks to a conservative advocacy group founded by Weyrich, the GOP's effort to disrupt voting rights has been more widespread and effective than ever. In a systematic campaign orchestrated by the American Legislative Exchange Council – and funded in part by David and Charles Koch, the billionaire brothers who bankrolled the Tea Party – 38 states introduced legislation this year designed to impede voters at every step of the electoral process.
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36. auburn (Mod) 20:10 GMT le 04 septembre 2011    
37. unclemush 22:05 GMT le 04 septembre 2011    
Link Everyone knows that Tea Party revolutionaries fear and hate socialism about as much as the Antichrist. Which is funny, because the Tea Party movement’s dirty little secret is that it owes its existence to the grandaddy of all Antichrists: the godless empire of the USSR.

What few realize is that the secretive oil billionaires of the Koch family, the main supporters of the right-wing groups that orchestrated the Tea Party movement, would not have the means to bankroll their favorite causes had it not been for the pile of money the family made working for the Bolsheviks in the late 1920s and early 1930s, building refineries, training Communist engineers and laying down the foundation of Soviet oil infrastructure.

The comrades were good to the Kochs. Today Koch Industries has grown into the second-largest private company in America. With an annual revenue of $100 billion, the company was just $6.3 billion shy of first place in 2008. Ownership is kept strictly in the family, with the company being split roughly between right-wing brothers Charles and David Koch, who are worth about $20 billion apiece and are infamous as the largest sponsors of right-wing causes. They bankroll scores of free-market and libertarian think tanks, institutes and advocacy groups. Reason magazine, Heritage Foundation and Cato Institute are just a few of Koch-backed free-market operations. Greenpeace estimates that the Koch family shelled out $25 million from 2005 to 2008 funding the “climate denial machine,” which means they outspent Exxon Mobile three to one.I first learned about the Kochs in February 2009, when Mark Ames and I were looking into the strange origins of the then-nascent Tea Party movement. Our investigation led us again and again to a handful of right-wing organizations and think tanks directly tied to the Kochs. We were the first to connect the dots and debunk the Tea Party movement’s “grassroots” front, exposing it as billionaire-backed astroturf campaign run by free-market advocacy groups FreedomWorks and Americans For Prosperity, both of which are closely linked to the Koch brothers.But the Tea Party movement—and Koch family’s obscene wealth—go back more than half a century, all the way to grandpa Fredrick C. Koch, one of the founding members of the far-rightwing John Birch Society which was convinced that evil socialism was taking over America through unions, colored people, Jews, homosexuals, the Kennedys and even Dwight D. Eisenhower.
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38. unclemush 00:47 GMT le 05 septembre 2011    
Link The Tea Party movement: deluded and inspired by billionaires
By funding numerous rightwing organisations, the mega-rich Koch brothers have duped millions into supporting big business
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39. auburn (Mod) 01:57 GMT le 05 septembre 2011    
37. unclemush ...LIKE
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41. originalLT 12:33 GMT le 14 septembre 2011    
In NYC. republican wins long standing democratic seat in congress. Sign of things to come?
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42. auburn (Mod) 15:32 GMT le 14 septembre 2011    
Just dont get sick and not have insurance or your insurance not pay..some of the Teaparty folks will cheer on your death no matter what you are.(rep or dem)
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43. auburn (Mod) 16:19 GMT le 14 septembre 2011    
When CNN's Wolf Blitzer pressed Rep. Ron Paul (R-Texas) over what he would do if a 30-year-old uninsured man suddenly slipped into a coma and needed care, he did so, in all likelihood, not knowing just how personal a question it was for the Texas Republican.

Paul's 2008 campaign manager, Kent Snyder, went through a strikingly similar experience to Blitzer's hypothetical one, dying of complications from viral pneumonia just two weeks after Paul ended his presidential bid. Snyder was uninsured, so family and friends were forced to raise funds to cover his $400,000 in medical bills. Their efforts included setting up a website soliciting contributions from Paul supporters.
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44. auburn (Mod) 17:16 GMT le 14 septembre 2011    
Republicans are saying they fear helping President Obama to create jobs would be bad for them politically. In a Politico story, Republicans gripe about how passing the American Jobs Act could hurt them politically, even as it creates jobs for Americans.

A Republican aide told the publication, “Obama is on the ropes; why do we appear ready to hand him a win?” Economists estimate that passage of the jobs act could create 1.9 million new jobs.
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45. unclemush 17:19 GMT le 14 septembre 2011    
Link Audience at tea party debate cheers leaving uninsured to die
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46. Some1Has2BtheRookie 18:23 GMT le 14 septembre 2011    
Quoting spathy:
Hey Aub.
Are you having fun?
Trust me the written word does not convey a smile even if I type one in.

This type of give and take is food for thought and no different than a good sword fight with flexible non penetrating blades.

I have a high tolerance for political give and take.

Most do not.

So my "en guard" / "touche" is just an extension of a mentally stimulating chat.

Please dont take my solid foundations that are based on consistent integrity to be a slander towards your feelings.

WOW that was one of my best passive aggressive statements I have ever constructed :O)

I sure hope yall are laughing :O)


Spathy, I have no disagreements with what the Tea Party stands for, politically. My biggest concerns, with the Tea Party, is that they wish to walk into the control room and start flipping switches and adjusting dials without any real sense of what those switches and dials control or what interlocks may be in place. There is a process and this process, by design, moves at a much slower pace than the Tea Party leadership wishes to use. That is never the right approach unless a split second decision must be made. Even then, someone more familiar with the processes should be making those split second decisions.
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47. LowerCal 19:26 GMT le 14 septembre 2011    
"How Obama’s Election Drove the American Right Insane"

Here is a site

Get the facts. Fight the smears. — AttackWatch.com,

here is their twitter feed

Attack Watch (AttackWatch) on Twitter

and here is the reaction

Twitter / Search - #attackwatch.

Apparently facts scare them senseless, LOL!


In reality facts only scare the manipulating liars and the senseless will believe whatever those manipulators tell them. One of the lies the senseless have been told is that they *are* the American Right.
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48. auburn (Mod) 22:12 GMT le 14 septembre 2011    
Though once they were whipped into a frenzy at the mere (false) thought that "death panels" might determine the ultimate fate of someone sick and government-insured, tea parties have less of a problem with "the market" deciding someone's fate. During the CNN-Tea Party debate on September 12, 2011, tea partiers shouted at debate moderator Wolf Blitzer that a 30-year-old man who hadn't bought health insurance should be allowed to die if he couldn't afford care in the event of a catastrophe.

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49. breald 22:16 GMT le 14 septembre 2011    
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50. breald 22:22 GMT le 14 septembre 2011    
Yeah Tea Party bashing!!

At least Obama's campaign staff received health insurance. I worked for the company that provided said insurance.

Ron Paul's Campaign Manager died without any insurance.

Link
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51. unclemush 22:23 GMT le 14 septembre 2011    
Link GOP Defector Spills the Beans
Sep 5, 2011 2:51 PM EDT
Mike Lofgren loyally served the GOP on Capitol Hill for 28 years. But no longer. Michael Tomasky on what the defection of a Republican staffer tells us about the state of the party.
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